[06:32 am] Mitch K: monitoring PANW
[06:32
am] Mitch K: monitoring ENOC
[06:32 am]
Mitch K: watching RRC
[06:32 am] Mitch K:
watching FIVE for top
[06:32 am] Mitch K:
watching ANV for bottom
[06:33 am] Mitch
K: watching NTRS for trades both
ways
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching ANN for
bottom
[06:34 am] Mitch K: watching IGT
for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K: watching
VRA for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch K:
monitoring LQDT
[06:35 am] Mitch K:
watching XXIA for bottom
[06:35 am] Mitch
K: watching DECK for bottom
[06:36 am]
Mitch K: monitoring GS for bottom
[06:36
am] Mitch K: watching ATI for
bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching BWLD
for bottom
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching
STZ for top
[06:36 am] Mitch K: watching
KORS for trades today, next one is a bottom
to buy, take time
[06:37 am] Mitch K:
watching ANN closer
[06:37 am] Mitch K:
watching LLTC for top
[06:37 am] Ed :
monitoring GS
[06:38 am] Mitch K:
monitoring STT
[06:38 am] Mitch K:
watching ADTN for bottom
[06:39 am] Ed :
monitoring STT
[06:39 am] Mitch K: looking
for 24.20 area on VRA bounce
[06:41 am] Ed
: MONITORING VIP
[06:42 am] Mitch K:
watching VECO for bottom
[06:43 am] Mitch
K: quick short on YELP, micro short
[06:44
am] Mitch K: watching CRS for trades both
ways
[06:45 am] Mitch K: montioring
CELG
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching ONXX for
bottom
[06:46 am] Mitch K: loooking for
sell exit on VECO soon, gradually as it
rises
[06:48 am] Mitch K: watching BXP for
bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K: watching VRA
for 2nd bottom
[06:49 am] Mitch K:
watching KORS for 2nd bottom, should bounce
more than 1st
[06:51 am] Ed : monitioring
frc
[06:53 am] Mitch K: anticipating VECO
to peak soon,
[06:53 am] Mitch K: watching
VRA closely
[06:53 am] Mitch K: ANN
bouncing
[06:55 am] Mitch K: watching CAB
for top to short.
[06:55 am] Ed :
monitioring AAPL
[06:56 am] Mitch K: BWLD
bounce looks over
[06:56 am] Mitch K: and
a top is for a short
[06:56 am] Mitch K:
you all know when i say watching for a bottom
that means looking to go long at bottom for a
bounce
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching CRM
for bottom
[07:00 am] Mitch K: may surge
higher later on ANN
[07:00 am] Mitch K:
ANN toppy for now
[07:00 am] Mitch K:
little more upside on ATI but watching for
sell point
[07:04 am] Mitch K: watching
for SI 03-13 top
[07:05 am] Mitch K: got a
#3 signal on GC 03-13
[07:06 am] Mitch K:
sorry didnt see til now, happened 632am
1676.00
[07:09 am] Mitch K: sell signal on
SI 03-13
[07:12 am] Mitch K: WTW low
vol
[07:12 am] Mitch K: watchign WTW for
bottom
[07:12 am] Mitch K: watching LULU
for bottom
[07:13 am] Mitch K: 23.50
area
[07:13 am] Mitch K: should be good
bounce in VRA, more upside
[07:15 am]
Mitch K: 39.50 area+
[07:15 am] Mitch K:
DECK bouncing, should be good
[07:15 am]
Mitch K: forget WTW idea, no vol
[07:17
am] Mitch K: sky, David Einhorn really
interesting guy, saw some
interviews
[07:18 am] Mitch K: little more
upside on KORS but getting close to
exhaustion
[07:19 am] Mitch K: reduce
LULU
[07:22 am] Mitch K: thanks
qwert
[07:23 am] Mitch K: monitoring EW
spike
[07:23 am] Mitch K: when a stock
makes new highs as CAB just did and you are
short, should stop
[07:24 am] Mitch K:
watching RGR move, Ruger, gun
manufacturer
[07:26 am] Mitch K: i like to
be on sidelines with CL on crude oil
inventory report times, in 4
minutes
[07:29 am] Mitch K: most bounces
are fizzling, should be out of
longs
[07:34 am] Mitch K: natural
gas
[07:34 am] Mitch K: NG cycling
well
[07:35 am] Mitch K: which contract
and setting you looking at for PL joey?
my 5R for PL 03-13 not looking good
[07:36
am] Mitch K: watching NG for bottom
[07:39
am] Mitch K: that is natural gas
[07:39
am] Mitch K: /NG should bounce soon
[07:49
am] Mitch K: getting #3 signal on NG
03-13
[07:52 am] Mitch K: #3 was 4 candles
before Lightning signal, i like that heads
up, i dont rush in i just get lmit orders
lower by 3-5 ticks
[07:53 am] Mitch K:
what is hard as usual for most traders is not
the entry but having the self control and
patience to let these run. they often
can take 1-2 hours but you make the call for
yourself when to sell
[07:54 am] Mitch K:
yes i like that lisa, do that now, on most
futures[07:54 am] Mitch K: im taling about NG
03-13, 4 range chart, or 5 range
[07:54
am] Mitch K: my first target was this 3.430
area but as usual be flexible
[07:55 am]
Mitch K: on first contract
[07:55 am]
Mitch K: now what normally happens is these
futures can hit a target area or any price
and pullback a little, then get a surge of
buying and move higher but i would sell here,
try to get best price soon
[07:56 am]
Mitch K: but that was first trade on the #3
signal, i have been looking for slight
pullbacks to buy the bottom again and get
another helping long
[07:56 am] Mitch K:
wo that was about 10-12 ticks for
you
[07:57 am] Mitch K: what i am saying
is the #3 isnt a one leg trade, it tends to
be signaling a bottom for quite some time,
often times for 1-2 hours
[07:57 am] Mitch
K: ok thats nice electr.
[07:58 am] Mitch
K: the other observation i have about this is
you could see an instrument pullback to
starting point again and surge up higher,
then small pullback and surge higher, turn
into a trending move but with tradable moves
in the oscillations
[07:59 am] Mitch K:
lisa, are you saying you can position
yourself in a #3 signal on futures and still
trade stocks while the #3 matures?
[07:59
am] Mitch K: you have to know where you are
at in the trade. it is easy to get lost
while trading all the oscillations
[08:00
am] Mitch K: right lisa, agree.
[08:00 am]
Mitch K: the first leg of that move from #3
signal that electrader took is perfectly
valid
[08:00 am] Mitch K: that is what i
was thinking too
[08:01 am] Mitch K: i
think #3 is best for futures day trading or
as we saw yesterday on daily charts. #3
does not seem to be working for stocks except
for long intervals on chart
[08:06 am] Ed
: getting small bounce in SPy
[08:07 am]
Mitch K: soon
[08:07 am] Mitch K: looking
to work another long in NG again
[08:10
am] Mitch K: prob good place to start long in
NG 03-13
[08:17 am] Ed : SPY new
hod
[08:28 am] Ed : SPY trading near
yesterdays’ high
[08:30 am] Ed : Obama
will be speaking around noon est in regards
to gun law
[08:33 am] Mitch K: #3 signal
on NG 03-13
[08:36 am] Ed : Advanced
trader monitor CERN near yesterdays
low
[08:37 am] Mitch K: EW 2nd helping
short here
[08:47 am] Ed : when Obama
speaks will want to keep an eye on
CAB,SWHC,RGR
[08:48 am] Ed : he should be
on tap @ near 12est
[08:51 am] Ed : they
speaking now
[09:25 am] Ed : tight range
on SPY
[09:30 am] Ed : monitor LFC see if
we get more vol and selling for potental
play
[09:43 am] Mitch K: when you look at
the daily chart of NG 03-13, it looks logical
that we would have a pullback in NG for a few
days as most of these bounces fail on a
downtrend
[09:43 am] Mitch K: being
oriented toward the short side on NG would
have higher odds of being
profitable
[09:45 am] Ed : SPY
drop
[10:09 am] Mitch K: ok anyone who has
futures chart, pull up NG 03-13 on a 4 range
chart now
[10:10 am] Mitch K: i want to
show you something
[10:11 am] Mitch K:
just one moment
[10:13 am] Mitch K: the
peak price was on the 9:29:31 candle
correct?
[10:13 am] Mitch K: ok you see
that buy signal at 9:11:25am pacific time on
NG 03-13 on 4 Range chart?
[10:14 am]
Mitch K: and it starts showing some red
candles, pulls back a little there and then
gets buy signal then moves up another 17
ticks, you see that?
[10:15 am] Mitch K:
then it pulls back for 5 candles and the 2nd
red candle is a Lightning sell signal, you
all following that?
[10:17 am] Mitch K: ok
those two pullbacks, don’t trade those on the
short side. Lets say you were long, you
want to think in terms of making money on the
long side and not reverse too often,
especially if you have another leg up after
that first pullback. it is becoming a
trending move and you dont take shorts on a
trending move up
[10:18 am] Mitch K: you
want to focus on the idea to be long on a
bullish trend but not take the reverse trades
short unless new evidence or change in the
chart shows the trend is changing.
[10:19
am] Mitch K: i am trying to communicate to
recognize trends and stay long ONLY on a
bullish trend and short only on a
downtrend
[10:20 am] Mitch K: i am
watching for a small long scalp but vol is
decreasing and getting late in day and I
didnt sleep much last night. And i like
to hang on to the profits. i try to be
more careful this time of day from doing
anything careless, which I have done many
times before. so i know my
weaknesses
[10:22 am] Mitch K: when i find
a young kid who is gamer type, i will hire
him to scan many charts so I can give you
more Futures and FOrex signals during day so
we all can trade more quality signals.
I will have him scan for a lot of 3’s as well
as another set of signals we developed that
are really superb. more frequent, but
requires more expertise. i will
integrate that with Lightning but will have
to teach you how to use it
[10:24 am]
Mitch K: the low hanging fruit
signals,
[10:24 am] Mitch K: gamer will
use two computers with multi screens and i
will use another 2 or 3 desktops with many
screens and monitor for
[10:26 am] Mitch
K: so you see that pattern appears to be
repeating itself on NG, trend
continues
[10:29 am] Mitch K: qwert, did
you go long on that NG afterall?
[10:30
am] Mitch K: ok you see the last drop on NG
had a little more drop than last
pullback? it give me clue that more
sellers want to come in and maybe next sell
signal is a short for 7-10 ticks
[10:32
am] Mitch K: 04-13
[10:32 am] Mitch K:
watching PL drop
[10:35 am] Ed :
monitoring CLSN
[10:36 am] Ed : CLSN
halted
[10:41 am] Mitch K: CLSN
open
[10:46 am] Ed : if u took CLSN long
would reduce some here
[10:48 am] Ed :
will trail last 1/4 of CLSN long
[11:02
am] Mitch K: pull up a 6E 03-13 4 range
chart
[11:03 am] Mitch K: that is for Euro
currency future
[11:05 am] Mitch K: see
how many candles it was on that downtrend
before a buy signal occurred? i like on
these curerncies the trends usually are
longer than other instruments.
and then a nice rebound up? i call that
or refer to it as cycling well
[11:08 am]
Mitch K: i especially like to take a
signal like the buy signal after a longer
drop. odds shift toward you if an
instrument dropped quite a bit before you
took a signal. it also happened to be a
#3 signal at same signal as a Lightning
signal but just that fact a bigger move
occurred befor eyou got the reversal signal
is a good sign of a higher quality
signal. it is at least worth several
candles of a rebound to make 7-12 ticks and
you can close that long before you get a sell
signal
[11:09 am] Mitch K: thats a lot of
information but really important you
understand this
[11:09 am] Mitch K: when
you trade for small profits you are going to
have to use trading action instead of using a
lightning signal. I mean if you are
trading a quick profit in let’s say, 3 or 4
candles, you have to or should use trading
action and or profit targets because a
lightning signal is designed for a longer
bigger move than those micro trades
[11:13
am] Mitch K: if your style is more oriented
toward Joey’s approach with quicker trades
and lower profit targets then you must
understand what i described. if you
trade more toward Lisas style of positioning
and longer holding times, then the actual
Lightning signals will serve you well on both
opening and closing transactions with a
little less emphasis on trading action on the
micro level
[11:17 am] Mitch K: if you
ever wonder what the heck you are doing wrong
and are not making money like the guys
posting in the Trading Room, go back to
simulator and practice good habits.
learn slowly and correctly. DOnt worry
if you are not making money while you are in
sim…. just realize you will make money if
you learn properly, then practice it to
reinforce habits and thought patterns,
monitor yourself and behavior all while in
sim mode. Review your Account
Performance by going to COntrol Center,
Account Performance, use date ranges or
advanced analysis of specific contracts, sim
accounts, broker accounts or
instruments.
[11:18 am] Mitch K: dont
worry about what other people are
doing. there are always going to be
smarter, faster or more experienced traders
than you. your job is to focus on
learning a technique, practicing in virtual
simulator mode on funny money, and reinforce
correct habits, procedures, thoughts,
emotions
[11:19 am] Mitch K: FOr those of
you who are struggling or who have struggled
in the past, you might realize that most of
your losses occurred because of allowing your
emotions get whipsawed and second guessing
yourself. that is no way to build a
foundation of proper trading habits and
techniques.
[11:20 am] Mitch K: Most
people learn most things in life that
way. It is very costly to do that in
trading and usually ends up in failure.
if you learn things like flying or other high
risk activities, it often ends in an
accident.
[11:21 am] Mitch K: the key to
this whole process is to learn properly
without blowing through your only money to
trade with. so thats why a simulator is
perfect for this, even after you are
experienced
[11:22 am] Mitch K: for
example, i wanted to test this group of
signals, so i turned on simulator, did some
trades with zero emotional stress or pressure
and observed how #2’s signals are working in
certain settings
[11:23 am] Mitch K:
obviously, this is applicable to professional
traders like the London Whale or all the guys
that over leverage the firm and build too big
of positions themselves to try to repair a
losing position. Peer pressure, loss of
bonus income for them, trying to be a hero,
etc. all same for pros as
well
[11:24 am] Mitch K: do you know the
difference in statistics between commercial
airlline/military pilots vs. private pilots
in accident rates?
[11:24 am] Mitch K: we
have seen the Barings Bank go bankrupt, two
decades ago, another firm had to liquidate
within last 3 years, we have seen this
often
[11:25 am] Mitch K: its like 100 to
1 or 500 to 1 difference and the only reason
is the professional pilots and military
pilots get a lot of training, practice,
briefings, debriefings, peer reviews, more
simulators, etc.
[11:26 am] Mitch K: this
is applicable to us as traders
[11:26 am]
Mitch K: do you know who are the worst pilots
in the world statistically? guess the
country or regions of the world
[11:27 am]
Mitch K: Sorry Doji and others but the SOuth
Americans have one of the worst
records. Middle eastern countries also
very high accident rates. this is
because of cultural influences. People
can’t handle being told what to do from a
subordinate , which a co-pilot is. it
is offensive for them.
[11:29 am] Mitch K:
Best pilots are the New Zealand and
Australians and USA comes in after
that. Aussies don’t have a problem
giving or taking an order or constructive
criticism. This can be applicable to
you as a trader. Do you have a
problem accepting the fact you will be wrong
on a certain percentage of trades. Does
that offend you? DO you have a problem
with taking training?
[11:30 am] Mitch K:
OR you crash and burn
[11:30 am] Mitch K:
you have to look at these questions about
yourself. take a serious look at that
if you are having challenges. Most of
all this goes away and is not a problem after
a certain amount of time and training but you
cant lose your working capital during that
learning phase
[11:34 am] Mitch K: you ask
any military personnel at any level and you
ask them what kind of training did they
get. constant classes, phases, schools,
etc. At all levels, all
specialties. the problem with men
especially, is God gave us the an large
amount of testosterone which tends to give
men overconfidence that they can do anything
without reading instructions. i
personally think women start off better as
students because they tend to be more
cautious at first. but then if the men
survive the stupidity phase and were able to
learn past that and still have money left,
they start outperforming the women, probalby
because they are more aggressive, take more
chances. but with training, that is ok
to take be more aggressive as long as you are
proficient
[11:35 am] Mitch K: don’t have
the thoughts and excuses in your head like
“Well, I’m not as smart, or i dont have the
money or whatever . . . .” that is all
nonsense. the issue is the training
that you went through makes you the trader
you are. Spotty and weak training =
spotty profits
[11:37 am] Ed : just
monitroin HPQ right now
[11:37 am] Mitch
K: ok i just instructed Colleen to copy and i
will do that
[11:37 am] Mitch K: last
thing i want to say is i notice after
teaching the last 5 years that it takes about
18 months and somehow that apepars to be the
time when a dedicated student becomes quite
proficient. if their lifestyle
supported learning full time and practicing i
see this over and over that seems to be a
turning point
[11:38 am] Mitch K: as you
experienced traders know, I am not just
making this stuff up out of blue sky.
I’ve done plenty of analysis of what is
working and what is not in myself and
others
[11:43 am] Mitch K: one last thing,
again. What I am highly motivated
to do is have a smaller group of willing
people to get to a very high level of trading
with tools that literally, nobody else
has. this is about competition and if
we have the technology, tools, scanners,
software and training, the odds will be so
heavily on our side that we will consistently
take money from other people’s accounts to
ours. it is spread over all the people
who are getting worse prices, worse timing in
the same stocks or instruments that we are
trading. It becomes a transfer of
assets from their accounts to yours.
that is how this all works, just in case you
didn’t know.
[11:43 am] Ed : if u took HPQ
short would cover
[11:44 am] Mitch K: this
is basically a closed loop system with a
finite amount of money in the markets and
money just shifts from one group to
others. exception are IPOs that bring
in new money which still we are in a closedly
loop system.
[11:45 am] Mitch K: i used
that term 20 years ago khall, harvesting,
especially in swing trades that took 3-5 days
to mature.
[11:45 am] Mitch K: so who is
going to consistently win? the people
with no training? relying on
luck?
[11:49 am] Mitch K: This year, 2013
we are going to have tools that literally
nobody will have. THis scanner we are
working . . . . think about this. how
would you like to have every #3 signal on
every instrument available? or when a stock
is makign a high quality move.
Lightning is going to mature radically in
this next version with probably 60-65% less
signals, most of which were garbage signals
in the first place.
[11:50 am] Mitch K: my
sermon is over, taking off for day, see you
tomorrow
[11:50 am] Ed : HLF
alert
[11:50 am] Mitch K: and a limited
number of people will have access to this
because it wont work for any of us if too
many people are using the same
tool.
[11:51 am] Mitch K: well, one last
look for a #3
[11:51 am] Ed : Carl Ichan
has taken a stake in stock
[11:52 am]
Mitch K: oh shoot, while i was teaching a #3
came up on CL, lol oh thats funny
[11:54
am] Mitch K: well was before.
10:17:56am pacific at $93.91 long sell signal
at 1130am $94.24, took a while over an hour
and 20 minutes, 31 ticks is ok
[11:55 am]
Ed : new hod RGR and SWHC
[11:57 am] Mitch
K: could easily see $540 within 10
days
[11:57 am] Mitch K: interesting but
there is a #3 on AAPL daily chart 2 days ago
at $502. stock dropped another 20
points but that is relative small compared to
the move from $705 to $482
[12:14 pm] Ed :
monitor CERN for potential of cont. weakness
tomorrow
[12:23 pm] Ed : SPY pulling
back
[12:59 pm] Ed : EBAY will report
after the close
[12:59 pm] Ed : have a
great evening traders
| [05:50 am] eyes : Good Morning
Eveyone
[05:57 am] reshef :
G.m
[06:00 am] taco : gm
all
[06:02 am] qwert : Good morning
to everyone 🙂
[06:07 am]
shark : Gm all
[06:07 am]
joeytsa : good morning Ed,
everyone
[06:07 am] shark : Japan
Airlines and All Nippon Airlines grounded all
Boeing 787’s
[06:08 am] lisas : gm
all
[06:08 am] shark : BA down 3.7%
pre
[06:08 am] shark : 2 more
emergency landings since last week
[06:08
am] qwert : Gap down CMG, CIE,
BA
[06:08 am] joeytsa : some reports
coming out in a few..
[06:08 am]
shark : CMG pre announced earnings at
10pm ET last night due to Miami Conference
presentation
[06:08 am] joeytsa :
housing index @ 7pdt,crude@7:30pdt, beige
book 11pdt
[06:09 am] qwert : Gap
up AAPL, GS, VRA
[06:09 am]
shark : these pre-announcements are
crazy
[06:09 am] shark : not sure
what the point of having earnings day is for
anymore
[06:10 am] joeytsa : thx
qwert, add ONXX also
[06:10 am]
joeytsa : GS had nice
earnings
[06:11 am] qwert :
:))
[06:12 am] cowboyh : GM
all
[06:12 am] joeytsa : yeah shark,
have to start looking at the earnings
calendar about 6 weeks ahead
[06:13 am]
shark : wow
[06:13 am] shark :
almost put on a CMG swing yesterday,
too
[06:13 am] joeytsa : even 2-3
weeks before
[06:13 am] shark : in
the back of my head, I was like, maybe I’ll
wait 1 more day
[06:14 am] doji :
Good morning fellas… just connecting to say
hello. Plenty of work at the office
today
[06:14 am] joeytsa : yeah i
need to set an alarm on the
calendar
[06:14 am] joeytsa : hey
doji, you should hire someone to do your job
so you can have fun with us 🙂
[06:14 am]
shark : dojiiiiiiiiiii
[06:14 am]
shark : time to retire like joey and
I
[06:15 am] taco : hey doji,
soon
[06:15 am] qwert : CL at 93.40
area again
[06:15 am] Ed : good
morning
[06:15 am] joeytsa : hey
Ed
[06:15 am] qwert : gm
ed
[06:15 am] lisas : gm
Ed
[06:15 am] taco : hi ed
[06:15
am] skydiver : gm all
[06:15 am]
doji : Yes, good idea Joey… but that
will be once I retire… in another 20 years
or so
[06:16 am] skydiver : gm
all
[06:16 am] doji : Have 5
wivesildren to look and 20 children to
look after… hahaha
[06:16 am]
joeytsa : haha
[06:16 am] doji
: Anyone venturing in AAPL in the
pre-market?
[06:21 am] apple : good
morning to all swift traders
[06:21 am]
apple : gm doji
[06:21 am]
apple : gm joey
[06:21 am]
apple : gm sky
[06:21 am]
apple : gm taco
[06:21 am]
apple : gm lisa
[06:21 am]
apple : gm qwert
[06:21 am]
taco : gm apple
[06:21 am]
apple : gm E
[06:21 am] apple
: gm shark
[06:21 am] apple : gm
cowboy
[06:21 am] khall : gm
apple
[06:22 am] qwert : gm
apple
[06:22 am] apple : gm
khall
[06:22 am] doji : Hi
apple
[06:22 am] shark : watching
for high and low on CMG today to consider
trading off of
[06:22 am] skydiver :
gm apple
[06:23 am] shark : hi
apple
[06:24 am] doji : Explain
better Shark?
[06:25 am] apple : i
see shark, not much movement yesterday
between hi and lo
[06:25 am] shark :
looking for poss hod and lod
[06:26 am]
cowboyh : gm apple
[06:27 am]
shark : CMG down $29 9.9% on Cramer’s
comments
[06:27 am] skydiver : CMG
drops 11 percent after Q4 EPS outlook misses
estimates — “fly on the wall
[06:28 am]
skydiver : that was at 9am news
eastern
[06:28 am] shark : must be
those 2lb burritos they keep making for
me
[06:28 am] joeytsa : nice
drop
[06:28 am] apple :
haha
[06:29 am] elisha : Good
Morning Mitch, Ed and everyone
[06:29 am]
skydiver : humm – problem with my
Madscann this morning
[06:29 am]
apple : gm elisha
[06:29 am]
joeytsa : watching /ES for move over pp
@ 1464
[06:30 am] skydiver : gm
elishal
[06:30 am] elisha : gm
apple
[06:30 am] elisha : gm
skydiver
[06:30 am] shark : watching
BA
[06:30 am] shark : LULU
presentation live in 10minutes
[06:30 am]
shark : from Miami ICR
Conference
[06:31 am] skydiver :
thnx shark
[06:31 am] apple : thx
shark
[06:32 am] joeytsa : i expect
a lot of action on the banks
[06:32 am]
skydiver : went long on CMG
268.29
[06:33 am] doji : AAPL S
496.13
[06:33 am] joeytsa : eye on
BWA
[06:33 am] skydiver : out 3/4
CMG long 270.80
[06:33 am] shark :
great sky 🙂
[06:33 am] skydiver :
got nervous 🙂
[06:34 am] shark :
sure….
[06:34 am] skydiver :
letting last 1/4 ride
[06:34 am]
shark : sweet 😉
[06:34 am]
shark : BA bouncing too
[06:35 am]
joeytsa : VRA nice pullback
[06:35
am] doji : Out 1/2 APPL short
[06:36
am] shark : RIMM nice move again
today
[06:37 am] joeytsa : tighten
CMG if long
[06:37 am] skydiver :
out of CMG long 275.12
[06:37 am]
joeytsa : $ky !!!
[06:37 am]
skydiver : 🙂
[06:38 am] taco
: nice one
[06:38 am] apple : nice
sky
[06:38 am] skydiver : thnx
taco
[06:38 am] skydiver : and apple
🙂
[06:38 am] skydiver : nice start
to the day
[06:38 am] joeytsa :
/PL,GC giving a pullback
[06:39 am]
joeytsa : nice 8 minute day $ky
🙂
[06:39 am] skydiver : 8 minutes
— ?? I guess I lost sense of time on
that one 🙂
[06:39 am] joeytsa :
hope you got paid overtime haha
[06:39 am]
skydiver : me too 🙂
[06:40 am]
doji : AAPL watching
[06:40 am]
skydiver : and thnx shark for getting
my eyes onto CMG 🙂
[06:41 am]
shark : 🙂
[06:42 am] shark :
7pt move off top of big green 1min candle –
CMG
[06:43 am] doji : Watching
ANN
[06:43 am] skydiver : watching
ANN as well
[06:43 am] doji : Tell
us the top in CMG Sjark.. you know that
stock better
[06:43 am]
joeytsa : /NG nice uptrend so
far
[06:44 am] doji : MCP
[06:44
am] joeytsa : Ed: thanks for
STT
[06:44 am] doji : Watching
CELG…
[06:44 am] shark : watching
AAPL -near hod retest
[06:44 am]
taco : watching STT
[06:45 am]
joeytsa : nice call Mitch on
RRC
[06:46 am] doji : @nd short in
AAPL
[06:47 am] joeytsa : watch
platinum, S. African workers going on
strike
[06:47 am] shark : AAPL
obeying 8min ma
[06:48 am] doji : or
10min, or 12min
[06:49 am] skydiver
: monitoring KORS – thnx Mitch
[06:50 am]
doji : AAPL below the 8min MA
[06:50
am] shark : yeah, struggling
[06:50
am] shark : CMG looks like a top for
now
[06:51 am] doji : Danf… forgot
MCP
[06:51 am] doji : Mike are you
in MCP?
[06:52 am] shark : RIMM
nice
[06:52 am] apple : doji, how
could you forget it? you called out MCP
a few minutes ago
[06:52 am] shark :
AAPL new hod
[06:52 am] doji : Let’s
if AAPL has the guts to move above $500 with
volume
[06:53 am] apple : sounds
like a challenge
[06:54 am] doji :
People is just nuts above AAPL…
[06:56
am] apple : AAPL went crazy — haven’t
seen it gap up and continue in a very long
time
[06:56 am] taco : thx for
MCP,
[06:56 am] elisha : yes
MK
[06:56 am] eyes : CAB
[06:58
am] skydiver : CRM – speculation on
accounting issues
[06:59 am] joeytsa
: rut roh 🙂
[06:59 am] shark : LULU
drop
[06:59 am] shark : nice sky
CRM
[06:59 am] joeytsa : conference
must be going
[06:59 am] skydiver :
accounting issues with CRM
[06:59 am]
shark : the new math is tough
[07:01
am] skydiver : had to reboot my TSA —
froze up for some reason – but back
[07:02
am] elisha : well good morning again
sky
[07:02 am] skydiver :
🙂
[07:02 am] skydiver : went L on
CRM
[07:03 am] skydiver : argh – hit
the wrong key – went short on CRM
[07:03
am] shark : looks good to me,
sky
[07:04 am] skydiver : well – all
out of CRM short – guess it worked out –
crazy
[07:04 am] shark : you ‘da man
on CRM
[07:04 am] skydiver : luck of
the Irish — I guess — but I’m not
Irish
[07:04 am] apple : now that is
great luck!
[07:04 am] shark : AAPL
500 some res
[07:04 am] elisha :
obviously you have help from above
[07:04
am] shark : that happened to me the
other day, made some $ too
[07:05 am]
doji : AAPL consolidating… is either
now or never
[07:05 am] elisha :
aapl
[07:05 am] doji : Here she
comes!
[07:05 am] elisha : oops
wrong window
[07:06 am] doji : Run
baby run… AAPL
[07:08 am] doji :
It needs to hold $500 or I am out
[07:09
am] doji : Next resistance in AAPL at
507
[07:10 am] doji : MCP let’s see
if it holds $0
[07:10 am] doji :
9
[07:10 am] shark : remember that
CRUS moves with AAPL -big product
supplier
[07:10 am] skydiver : thnx
again shark on CRUS info
[07:10 am]
shark : CMG new hod
[07:11 am]
doji : Thanks Shark
[07:11 am]
regatta : watching GNW
[07:11 am]
shark : all out LULU short
[07:12
am] shark : conference just ended –
LULU
[07:12 am] skydiver : nice
shark
[07:12 am] skydiver : must
have been a positive conference — tongue in
cheek
[07:13 am] shark :
haha
[07:13 am] joeytsa : those were
2 nice moves on /SI
[07:14 am]
joeytsa : around
$1000/contract
[07:14 am] shark :
nice joey
[07:14 am] joeytsa : i
didnt have it, just looked
[07:15 am]
shark : oh, ok
[07:15 am] doji
: BXP slow mover…I like those…
[07:15
am] joeytsa : Mitch had posted a sell
signal on /SI
[07:15 am] joeytsa :
NFLX spike down
[07:15 am] shark :
hmmm…
[07:15 am] joeytsa : looks
about $2.50 spike down
[07:16 am]
joeytsa : $2 i mean
[07:16 am]
skydiver : NFLX down with rumor of a
big player shorting the stock
[07:16 am]
skydiver : David Einhorn – big
player
[07:16 am] shark : thx sky,
you rock!
[07:16 am] skydiver :
🙂
[07:16 am] doji : Same as
HLF?
[07:17 am] skydiver : is that
right Mitch
[07:18 am] skydiver :
amazing how he affects the market
[07:19
am] shark : you get KORS,
sky?
[07:20 am] skydiver :
🙂
[07:20 am] shark : all out KORS
long +1.03
[07:20 am] joeytsa :
Einhorn started Greenlight with $900k , now
his net worth is over $1B
[07:20 am]
skydiver : nice shark
[07:20 am]
joeytsa : nice trade shark
[07:20
am] shark : LULU long all out
+.76
[07:20 am] apple : good one
shark
[07:21 am] qwert : crude
inventory at 7:30 pst
[07:21 am]
apple : thx qwert
[07:22 am]
joeytsa : thx for the reminder qwert,
forecast is for 2M
[07:22 am]
skydiver : Been a good morning — got
to go into the office early again today —
see you all tomorrow or may jump on a bit at
the office — make lots of $$$$
[07:22 am]
shark : bye sky 🙂
[07:22 am]
taco : c ya sky
[07:22 am]
joeytsa : enjoy $ky 😉
[07:23
am] skydiver : 🙂
[07:23 am]
apple : bye sky, have fun
[07:23 am]
doji : Just 0.75 spike so far
[07:24
am] doji : on 90 stock
[07:24 am]
shark : 1/2 out DECK long
[07:24 am]
joeytsa : might see a spike in the gun
stocks continue a bit
[07:25 am]
cowboyh : At least that one part of the
economy that Obama has helped so
far
[07:25 am] doji : I am swining
AAPL into earnings. Long from
497.35
[07:25 am] shark : stock or
options, doji?
[07:26 am] doji :
I’ll sell right before earnings
[07:26 am]
joeytsa : when is earnings?
[07:26
am] shark : jan 23, joey
[07:26 am]
doji : Stocks Sharky long
497.35
[07:27 am] doji : I’ll wait
for a close above $500 to add tomorrow in a
pullback
[07:27 am] joeytsa : thx
shark, consensus is 13.44 , whisper is $14
for AAPL
[07:27 am] shark : thx
joey
[07:27 am] doji : NFLX at
100
[07:27 am] joeytsa :
http://www.earningswhispers.com/stocks.asp?sy
mbol=aapl
[07:27 am] shark : nice
subscription to the “whisper
channel”
[07:29 am] shark : stopped
out last 1/2 DECK long
[07:29 am]
joeytsa : doji: good plan on your AAPL
swing
[07:30 am] joeytsa : crude
down 900k ?
[07:31 am] eyes :
FSLR
[07:31 am] eyes : low
vol
[07:31 am] shark : gas up
1.9m
[07:32 am] joeytsa : nice quick
bounce on /CL
[07:33 am] eyes : GW
alert
[07:33 am] shark : thx, Mitch.
SPY struggling at b/e
[07:33 am]
eyes : GWRE
[07:34 am] joeytsa
: just be careful with vol on GWRE
[07:34
am] apple : very low vol
[07:34 am]
joeytsa : 1/3 of total vol was on 1
candle
[07:34 am] eyes :
yup
[07:35 am] joeytsa : /PL on nice
run too Mitch
[07:36 am] eyes :
FOSL
[07:37 am] lisas : I’ve been
watching the 4 re chart on pl mitch, not
trading, but I like that setting
[07:37
am] doji : EW still moving
[07:37
am] joeytsa : /PL 04-13 with a 5R
setting Mitch
[07:37 am] qwert :
watching
[07:38 am] qwert :
FOSL
[07:38 am] shark : nice eyes
FOSL
[07:38 am] joeytsa : HLF on a
nice pullback
[07:38 am] shark :
anybody watching RIMM?
[07:38 am]
qwert : CAB approaching 50
[07:40
am] joeytsa : FOSL always interesting
near earnings
[07:41 am] joeytsa :
FOSL earnings are 2/12
[07:42 am]
eyes : not liking how its acting
thou
[07:43 am] shark : LULU -re:
Ceo -some of her comments misunderstood by
market
[07:43 am] eyes : any
thoughts on FOSL
[07:43 am] shark :
I hear the new english hard to understand
too
[07:44 am] joeytsa : math and
english haha
[07:46 am] shark : AAPL
breaking 8,34 min ma
[07:48 am] eyes
: ALNY
[07:48 am] joeytsa : break
time, see you in 20
[07:48 am] shark
: c ya joey
[07:50 am] shark : NFLX
new lod
[07:50 am] apple : have fun
joey
[07:51 am] qwert : thx
mitch
[07:54 am] lisas : it can help
if you can afford 2 contracts, then you can
take quicker profits on one, move stop to
appropriate level and let it run as a “free”
trade
[07:55 am] lisas : there is a
mini crude for smaller account traders,
little thinner, so mind your stops
[07:57
am] electrader : L NG
3.417 out all +13
[07:58 am]
doji : Watcging NFLX
[07:58 am]
lisas : Thats a good type of signal,
then we can trade it around stock
trades:)
[08:00 am] lisas : right,
look for the signal early, hopefully
premarket. Get your first target, move stop
to safe area, then focus on stocks
[08:01
am] qwert : monitoring ADTN
[08:01
am] lisas : Then there are futures that
have a pit open later, like grains, that’s
about the time stocks slow down, 10:30 est.
Look for a trend and get positioned
there.
[08:01 am] electrader :
there’s been a couple of decent moves on GC
Mitch. +16 so far on 2 trades
[08:02
am] shark : DECK retest lod
[08:07
am] doji : /CL spiking higher
[08:15
am] shark : SPY testing hod at
breakeven
[08:19 am] joeytsa : good
idea on futures lisa
[08:23 am] eyes
: TSO
[08:26 am] jimjllsail :
hello
[08:26 am] shark : hi jim
🙂
[08:26 am] joeytsa : hey
jimj
[08:27 am] Ed : hey jiim
[08:27
am] taco : hi jim
[08:28 am]
apple : gm jimj how are you
today
[08:28 am] shark :
DECK
[08:28 am] shark : thx
Ed
[08:30 am] shark : FB
[08:32
am] shark : RIMM, lower highs, lower
lows
[08:33 am] apple : thx
E
[08:34 am] shark : AAPL testing
hod
[08:39 am] doji : Watching
SLB
[08:40 am] qwert : CAB testing
hod
[08:41 am] regatta :
RIO
[08:44 am] doji : CELG coming
alive
[08:45 am] shark : NFLX new
lod
[08:45 am] doji : Dang forgot it
start trending after 11:00AM
[08:47 am]
jimjllsail : Hi ED
[08:47 am]
shark : thx Ed, makes sense
[08:48
am] qwert : surprised they are going up
with him speaking i would think he would be
bad for the gun manufacturers
[08:49 am]
qwert : maybe a short squeeze
[08:51
am] shark : starting early – OBAMA
speech
[08:52 am] eyes :
TUMI
[08:54 am] shark : AMZN new
lod
[08:57 am] shark : LULU nice
quick drop
[08:58 am] shark : CAB
racking up some large red vol bars
[09:05
am] joeytsa : now if we can just get
the criminals to agree to this
[09:06 am]
skydiver : exactly joey
[09:08 am]
qwert : DDD
[09:09 am] cowboyh
: SWHC
[09:11 am] shark : all out
LULU s
[09:12 am] shark : testing
lod area -LULU
[09:14 am] shark :
MNST testing b/e area, hod
[09:17 am]
qwert : ONXX
[09:18 am] qwert
: sorry thought it was more money
[09:24
am] shark : BP -nat gas field
attacked
[09:24 am] shark : 41
people taken hostage in Algeria
[09:26 am]
shark : AAPL new hod
[09:26 am]
apple : thx shark
[09:28 am]
shark : EUR/USD pulling back
[09:35
am] joeytsa : since the talk, CAB
pulled back, RGR moved up
[09:38 am]
joeytsa : see you all for the final
hour or so, make some good trades
[09:39
am] shark : bye joey
[09:50 am]
shark : CERN hanging tight at
lod
[09:52 am] Ed : sure is
[09:57 am]
shark : LULU new lod
[09:58 am]
shark : KORS poss double top on
1min
[10:10 am] qwert : ready
mitch
[10:10 am] cowboyh : got
it
[10:10 am] shark : me?
[10:11
am] shark : GOOG lod
[10:11 am]
regatta : can’t pull futures from my
laptop, could you put in on trading
room?
[10:12 am] apple : nice mov on
NFLX off bottom
[10:13 am] qwert :
yes
[10:13 am] cowboyh :
yep
[10:13 am] electrader :
yes
[10:14 am] qwert : yes
[10:14
am] shark : in only see FB and AAPL
charts
[10:14 am] shark : in =
I
[10:14 am] Ed : yea these are my charts
shark that are up
[10:14 am] qwert :
yes mk
[10:14 am] electrader :
yes
[10:14 am] Ed : i keep futures on
different system
[10:15 am]
electrader : yes
[10:15 am]
cowboyh : yes
[10:15 am] shark
: what is Mitch referring to?
[10:15 am]
Ed : nat gas futures
[10:16 am] doji
: Where is the chart?
[10:16 am]
cowboyh : I see it
[10:16 am] Ed :
people are look at their charts along with
him
[10:16 am] shark : oh, ok. thx,
Ed.
[10:17 am] Ed : no problem
[10:18
am] electrader : buy on the dip until
trend changes, right?
[10:18 am]
qwert : so are you watching now for
another long entry mitch
[10:19 am]
electrader : gotcha Mitch
[10:19 am]
apple : trend is your friend
[10:21
am] shark : agreed, apple! 🙂
[10:21
am] shark : LULU Ceo about to speak in
CNBC
[10:23 am] electrader : Sounds
great!
[10:24 am] shark : they
should send in the US military elite team to
Algeria for the rescue
[10:25 am]
shark : LULU spike
[10:29 am]
shark : e-commerce not included in
yesterday’s results-hmmm…
[10:29 am]
qwert : no it weas in ntz so
passed
[10:29 am] qwert :
weas=was
[10:30 am] apple : smart
guy
[10:33 am] shark : DECK nice
move up
[10:34 am] apple : pop in
sPY
[10:34 am] doji : FSLR moved
from suppoort at 30sh
[10:35 am]
apple : big drop on that one
CLSN
[10:36 am] doji :
Haklted
[10:36 am] doji : I was
writting it could be halted
[10:39 am]
qwert : anybody know the
news?
[10:40 am] qwert : i cant find
any
[10:42 am] doji : Posible
Seeking Alpha article
[10:42 am]
doji : CLSN
[10:43 am] apple :
saw that doji
[10:44 am] doji :
Apple, are you in AAPL?
[10:44 am]
apple : no doji waiting for a pullback
actually
[10:47 am] doji : Moving
steady up… it just need a liitle help from
the “big” guys to close well above
$505….
[10:48 am] Ed : nothing from TSA
Babes either qwert
[10:48 am] doji :
HEy Ed, waht was your price entry on CLSN and
at waht time? Just curious to know whne you
entered
[10:49 am] doji : I entered
at 1:41 at 7.33
[10:49 am] Ed : i entrered
1:41est price was 7.26
[10:49 am]
shark : you jewish, Ed?
[10:50 am]
Ed : the halt kind of messed with the
flow
[10:50 am] jimjllsail : nice
grab
[10:50 am] Ed : great entry
doji
[10:50 am] shark : great job,
guys
[10:50 am] apple : nice one
doji
[10:52 am] doji : Gaps in AAPL
begis at $507.5… watch that level
[10:52
am] Ed : Im all mixed up shark
[10:53 am]
victor51 : Nice eD AND dOJI. i GOT
DISTRACTED AND MISSED IT
[10:54 am]
lisas : not allowed
victor51:)
[10:54 am] Ed : hey shark it
was 7.26 and .99cents
[10:54 am] Mitch K:
you still look distracted by your
writing
[10:54 am] shark : lol
:))
[10:55 am] lisas : good point
Mitch
[11:01 am] victor51 : Mitch,
that was good. I am back now
[11:03 am]
qwert : ready mitch
[11:04 am]
qwert : watching DNKN
[11:10 am]
joeytsa : good lesson Mitch
[11:14
am] qwert : thx mitch
[11:18 am]
lisas : Mitch was busy while I stepped
away, lol. Let me add, I love TS, but Ninja
has a playback feature, learn to use it and
practice.
[11:18 am] joeytsa :
agreed
[11:19 am] joeytsa : Lisa: i
believe you can also speed up the
playback
[11:19 am] lisas : The
playback feature is awesome, you can trade
off the chart in sim mode, etc. They have
videos on youtube
[11:19 am] joeytsa
: can help in making quicker
decisions
[11:19 am] joeytsa : i
have never used it though, maybe will play
with it this week
[11:20 am]
skydiver : thanks Mitch — exactly what
I needed to hear 🙂
[11:20 am] eyes
: Guilty as chargred
[11:20 am]
joeytsa : we all have been
there
[11:20 am] joeytsa : still
revisit there from time to time
[11:23 am]
lisas : on phone, but yes, you can
speed up, which is handy to limit time and as
joey says, reaction time
[11:23 am]
taco : just catching up, thanks
Mitch
[11:25 am] skydiver : guessing
private has lots more accidents
[11:25 am]
doji : Run AAPL run
[11:27 am]
victor51 : Mitch, Thanks for great
lessons
[11:29 am] murano :
WLT
[11:32 am] skydiver : thnx Mitch
. . now to apply this to myself. . . got to
go to a luncheon . . see you tomorrow
.. lot’s more to apply to my
life.
[11:32 am] taco : thanks
Mitch, great reality chek
[11:32 am]
elisha : I really appreciate your
lessons Mitch, keep them coming
[11:32 am]
Ed : c ya sky
[11:32 am] joeytsa :
bye sky
[11:32 am] skydiver :
🙂
[11:32 am] joeytsa : good lessons
Mitch
[11:32 am] elisha : bye
sky
[11:32 am] taco : bye
sky
[11:32 am] khall : bye
sky
[11:32 am] doji : MCP
[11:36
am] elisha : well acquainted with men’s
stupidity phases – present company
accepted
[11:37 am] lisas : Mitch,
you should compile these lessons and put in a
doc in room documents
[11:37 am] Ed : hmm
whats a monitroin??
[11:38 am]
lisas : afraid t ask Ed
[11:38 am]
joeytsa : new drug??
[11:38 am]
joeytsa : spot on Mitch
[11:43 am]
taco : ))
[11:44 am] qwert :
thx mitch
[11:44 am] elisha : I have
a long way to go but count me in.
[11:44
am] khall : I like to think of it as
harvesting money
[11:45 am] joeytsa
: transfer warren buffets into mine…thanks
🙂
[11:45 am] Ed : lot less time than
getting 4 year degree elisha
[11:45 am]
elisha : I’m counting on that
Ed
[11:46 am] lisas : Sounds like a
plan!
[11:46 am] khall : are you
saying I’m behind ??? 😉
[11:46 am]
doji : Only traning, practice and
adeherence to rules can ensure success,
period
[11:47 am] joeytsa : then get
to it doji, Mitch said you were a crappy
pilot 🙂
[11:47 am] doji :
hahhaha
[11:47 am] qwert : agree
Doji
[11:47 am] taco : lol
[11:47
am] doji : I hate flying… specially
thise 14-16 hours flights
[11:47 am] Ed :
hey doji, get me some water now
[11:47 am]
Ed : just messing
[11:47 am] Ed : i agree
doji
[11:49 am] victor51 : Thanks
Lisa. I tried Ninja’s sim. for futures and i
wassurprised you can see my entry
price. Do we have to go to order screen
to close or we can do it on Lighening
chart?
[11:50 am] cowboyh : NUS and
hlf
[11:51 am] lisas : Thanks
Mitch!
[11:51 am] khall : have a
good one Mitch
[11:51 am] joeytsa :
thanks Mitch, have a great day
[11:51 am]
qwert : bye mitch have a great
night
[11:51 am] elisha : Thank you
Mitch
[11:52 am] cowboyh : whos is
Carl Ichan
[11:52 am] Ed : a heavy hitter
when it comes to bein influential on the
“street”
[11:53 am] Ed : wall street that
is, like the old EF Hutton
[11:53 am] Ed :
when he talks people listen
[11:54 am]
doji : As my friedn appled would say, I
am loving AAPL… as long as it doesn’t sell
off tomorrow… hahaha
[11:54 am]
cowboyh : I guess so looks someone hit
thease 2 stocks with a hot shot
[11:56 am]
victor51 : Lisa are you still
there?
[11:57 am] lisas :
yes
[11:57 am] doji : That is music
for my ears Mitch
[12:00 pm] khall :
looks like nobody wants to hold corn short
overnight… bit spike up
[12:00 pm]
khall : big I mean
[12:04 pm]
victor51 : Lisa, thanks. I tried Ninja
futures sim. can we close trade from
ninjalightning chart ornot?
[12:04 pm]
qwert : victor if you have the chart
trader turned on you can
[12:06 pm]
lisas : sorry victor, another phone
call. As in on the chart versus little
box next to it?
[12:07 pm] lisas :
There is a close button on the orde box. I’ve
only used it for the first time last
night
[12:15 pm] qwert : thx
Ed
[12:22 pm] victor51 : Lisa, you
mean buy and sell buttons?
[12:24 pm]
lisas : yes, there is also one that
says “close”, that would close a
position
[12:27 pm] victor51 : Lisa,
is it left of Sell button?
[12:27 pm]
khall : well, I’m finished for the day
I think – time to go enjoy some
sunshine
[12:27 pm] taco : bye
khall
[12:27 pm] khall : thanks
everyone for the calls and company –
see you tomorrow
[12:29 pm] lisas :
Well, lets be sure we are looking at same
thing. Looking at the grey box that gets
added to chart when you click chart trading.
Two columns of buttons, right hand side has
“sell” at top, below that is “sell ask”,
below that is “sell bid”, below that is
“close”. Close will flatten any
positions
[12:30 pm] Ed : c ya
khall
[12:30 pm] lisas : bye
khall
[12:33 pm] jimjllsail : onxx
good grab
[12:33 pm] jimjllsail :
quick and sweet
[12:34 pm] victor51
: Thanks Lisa and Qwert for your
help
[12:34 pm] lisas : did you find
it victor? Always good to know how to get out
of a positio!
[12:36 pm] victor51 :
yes Lisa. it’s cool tool
[12:38 pm]
lisas : ok, good. Yes it’s a good way
to practice.
[12:53 pm] taco : thank
you Mitch, Ed and all. see you
tomorrow
[12:54 pm] Ed : c ya
taco
[12:59 pm] qwert : goodnight
everybody thx for great calls
[01:00
pm] victor51 : Ed, got .20 for cern.
all out
[01:00 pm] Ed : nice scalp vic,
keep tabs on it tomorrow
[01:01 pm]
victor51 : Thanks Mitch, Ed all
traders. see you all
[01:03 pm]
jimjllsail : thanks guys i realy like
being a part of the trading room
[01:09
pm] shark : 🙂
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