Chat Highlights From 09/05/2012

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[06:41 am] Ed : SPY new lod
[06:42 am] Mitch K: watching for sell point on CME, sell gradually any long position soon
[06:44 am] Mitch K: still watching FRAN for bottom
[06:45 am] Mitch K: watching TNA for bottom to buy
[06:47 am] Mitch K: TNA turning up
[06:47 am] Mitch K: watching TEX closer
[06:48 am] Mitch K: early buy signal FRAN
[06:48 am] Mitch K: SPY turning up
[06:49 am] Mitch K: consider covering PCAR
[06:51 am] Mitch K: TNA is leveraged 3 to 1; watch SPY at same time next to TNA chart.  have to reset my computer
[06:57 am] Ed : nice bounce inSPY
[06:58 am] Mitch K: watching NOV for top to sell long
[07:00 am] Mitch K: try for best price to sell
[07:00 am] Mitch K: TNA toppy
[07:06 am] Mitch K: see if MJN makes new highs
[07:06 am] Mitch K: watching MJN for 2nd helping short soon
[07:06 am] Mitch K: monitor CLF for a top, just watching, strong right now, just monitoring, no trade idea yet
[07:10 am] Mitch K: expecting some pullback in SPY and that would help any shorts
[07:12 am] Mitch K: FDX strong even after lowered outlook by company
[07:12 am] Mitch K: little surge in buying here.
[07:13 am] Mitch K: i only like TNA as a long and i avoid that for shorts,
[07:15 am] Mitch K: DVA turning over
[07:17 am] Mitch K: FDX toppy
[07:19 am] Ed : for Advanced traders would short the bounces in BIDU, also monitor next day or 2 for break of 109.79 with vol. setting up bear cup on 15min
[07:23 am] Mitch K: little toppy here on YELP
[07:23 am] Mitch K: monitoring YELP, too strong to short yet but looking for quick micro short if it keeps moving like this
[07:26 am] Ed : SPY new hod
[07:33 am] Mitch K: not expecting YELP to break down big, already happy with profits so far but waiting for signal
[07:34 am] Mitch K: getting sell signals with SPY as well
[07:35 am] Mitch K: ok when you see a lower low like YELP gave, generally speaking you want to hold that short open but still not expecting a big breakdown
[07:36 am] Mitch K: ok see this candle here, current candle, is lower low, you now see it accelerate on downside
[07:39 am] Mitch K: consider covering YELP
[07:42 am] Mitch K: that microtrade short on YELP is a lot easier to get with Lightning chart.  was hard to get that trade before.  only 1% but still money in the bucket
[07:43 am] Mitch K: now when i look at FDX, i would anticipate some support around 86.30 area but i like to wait for at least an early signal to buy before covering short.  your expectations of profits should be smaller profits now
[07:45 am] Mitch K: very early buy signal on FDX
[07:47 am] Mitch K: i tend to ignore the very early signals, you will make more money over time by waiting for a formal signal
[07:48 am] Mitch K: when you have a trend going on a stock, esp the large cap leaders that are moving on high vol, i tend ignore the early signals
[07:50 am] Ed : covering 3/4 on BIDU short
[07:50 am] Mitch K: also, you want to watch the indexes alongside and keep that chart in same place all day, everyday, so your head just snaps to that spot when you want to know what the overall market is doing.  if SPY is going down like it is now and FDX is heading down, its more of a reason to ignore any early signal
[07:57 am] Mitch K: hey shark, the story on MNST is very often the same as many beverage companies over last 20 years ive watched.  THey have this big growth curve and they turn into a momentum stock, sometimes for 12-18 months.  SNapple was same way when i think quacker oats bot them in mid 90s, a generic soft drink maker that did private labeling, the list is long. the clue you look for in a momentum stock like when MNST moved up from 48 to 78 in five months is a big volume spike down.  maybe even on a weekly chart and you should sell right then.  look at a weekly on MNST and the June 29th week is what i am referring to. it should be a discipline just to leave, take profits and then you change your strategy with MNST into day trading stock for a couple of days on that volatility
[08:06 am] Ed : trailing stop on last 1/4 BIDU short
[08:11 am] Mitch K: buy signal on NTES if anyone is short good to cover
[08:15 am] Mitch K: there is that 86.30 support level i was talking about on FDX
[08:16 am] Mitch K: watching LULU for a microtrade short, not ready though
[08:39 am] Ed : nice one on RGR
[08:42 am] Ed : nice call qwert on DVA gave great longt
[08:45 am] Mitch K: soryr
[08:45 am] Mitch K: 2m
[08:45 am] Mitch K: sorry scalpman, i didnt see your message.  yes LULU had sell signal at 832am pacific time
[08:47 am] Ed : nice qwert alert long/short on DVA
[09:03 am] Ed : anyone still short DVA?
[09:10 am] Ed : nice trade eyes
[09:51 am] Ed : monitor CLF, if we get another push in SPY  look for quick move with strong vol to take 34.50 as long
[09:52 am] Ed : must have STRONG vol on the move
[09:57 am] Mitch K: it is a simple chart setup to trade for CL.  you are looking for these bigger moves like this
[09:57 am] Mitch K: this is not a buy recommendation, just looking at how CL, crude oil did
[09:58 am] Mitch K: 65 ticks in one run for CL is very good money, $650 on one contract
[09:59 am] Mitch K: pretty slow though today
[10:00 am] Mitch K: this is that DVA, got a problem with this version, will work it out
[10:01 am] Mitch K: i followed a bunch of your trades today like scalp, or shark, ed, eyes, i compared
[10:02 am] Mitch K: machine
[10:03 am] Mitch K: you guys see that with your own trading?
[10:03 am] Mitch K: the tendency is that we get better entries than exits.  we dont max out the profit
[10:03 am] Mitch K: there were some occasionally good entry or exit but not on both sides of the trade
[10:04 am] Mitch K: remember scalpman’s last exit on DVA and then he quit for the day?  i was going to show him the chart but he left.
[10:05 am] Mitch K: you guys look that up?  was 45-50 min ago
[10:05 am] Mitch K: i thought scalpmans buy to cover on DVA was around 102.60 something
[10:07 am] Mitch K: [08:47 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 DVA S
[10:13 am] Mitch K: minor fix.  but the top of that red candle is sell point
[10:13 am] Mitch K: this is DVA.  the diamond is incorrect, it should be placed here in blue circle
[10:14 am] Mitch K: you execute on the 1 min and you monitor on the 2 min, thats the way i think you should use this with stocks
[10:14 am] Mitch K: ok this is 1 min, this is where the signal was right here
[10:14 am] Mitch K: let me zoom in
[10:15 am] Mitch K: this is candle scalp bot to cover short
[10:15 am] Mitch K: lets look where scalpman left.  now i am not talking behind scalpmans back, im just reviewing his trade.
[10:16 am] Mitch K: but he might have had to go though,
[10:16 am] Mitch K: buy signal is where?  another 90-92 cents lower or about twice the profit he made
[10:16 am] Mitch K: when he posted
[10:16 am] Mitch K: i figured scalp got out around 102.91
[10:17 am] Mitch K: i mean do an errand, or he might have gotten bored or wife needed something
[10:18 am] Mitch K: so dont take this as a trade idea
[10:18 am] Mitch K: this isnt real time now shark, i am looking at back history
[10:18 am] Mitch K: have it in your mind that this isnt a perfect system but it is real good tool.
[10:20 am] Mitch K: and you dont want to trade something with real money if you are fighting yourself
[10:20 am] Mitch K: id say this is going to take you about 3 weeks to get used to at least.  you wont trust it at first,
[10:23 am] Mitch K: GS
[10:26 am] Mitch K: you guys understand what i am saying that it sell signal on GS
[10:27 am] Mitch K: what i was asking if you understand that you can match or beat a signal sometimes but not consistently.  but the most important advantage you have is being able to manage a lot of stocks at once with multiple positions without going mental by the end of day
[10:28 am] Mitch K: this is good.  you know when you watch really young kids do an easter egg hunt?
[10:28 am] Mitch K: ok, word picture for you, i got it
[10:29 am] Mitch K: been a while for me, my kids in college.  but you see the young boys go really fast, picking up whatever they see, so excited, running, go after that egg, then that one, and they see other people running and compete for another egg
[10:30 am] Mitch K: and they bend over and drop a bunch of eggs from their basket
[10:31 am] Mitch K: and then the parents are screaning where to go, get that one, etc.  all that commotion, all that frenzy is wasted energy.  it isn’t real efficient.  the comparison im making is that is sort of how we trade manually in a way compared to a something like lightning.
[10:33 am] Mitch K: when you see signal like i saw about 9-min ago?
[10:33 am] Mitch K: ok you see GS now?
[10:34 am] Mitch K: it doesnt look like much but i find it does turn into something.  so after watching this for maybe 2 months now, i just don’t stress out about a signal,  i just act if i am in an open position.
[10:35 am] Mitch K: repeat:  if you are using Lightning system, and you are in an open position, don’t ignore the closing signal.
[10:36 am] Mitch K: you can compare with another time interval if you wanted to try to squeeze out more money.  BUT if you have 3, 4, 5, 6 open positions, you probalby wont have time for that, esp in first 90 min of each day in stocks.  your activity needs to be the physical movement of placing orders and managing them, not in the analysis
[10:37 am] Mitch K: very little time is required for the analysis, making sense?
[10:39 am] Mitch K: if you were long at that buy point, you just take the signal.  why argue with it?
[10:39 am] Mitch K: this is GS.  yousee the sell signal i gave you about 12 min ago? or 13 min. ?
[10:40 am] Mitch K: you see im trying to get you guys to think correctly how to use it and how to think.  i hope this is all making sense.
[10:40 am] Mitch K: it doesnt matter that it is mid-day trading, and profit percentages are smaller, its the maximum amount you can consistently obtain from this trade
[10:41 am] Mitch K: and maybe after 4-6 weeks or less, you will be able to say what im thinking now…. “this is going to take a while before a buy signal to cover”
[10:43 am] Mitch K: on tight spread stocks, high vol, market orders work fine
[10:43 am] Mitch K: ok, on something like GS, you can buy at the bid and sell at the ask because there is usually a lot of volume.  OR because the spread is usually very tight on GS, you can take a market order but i like limit orders for sure on futures, i rarely take a market order on futures, you are giving up automatically $20-30 per contract one way if you do that
[10:45 am] Mitch K: see that green arrow
[10:45 am] Mitch K: just got a buy signal on GS
[10:45 am] Mitch K: ok right now, we got the SPY still dropping
[10:46 am] Mitch K: you cover that qwert?
[10:46 am] Mitch K: when i am short a stock and the spy is dropping and the stock im short is not dropping anymore, i get trigger happy to cover that stock
[10:47 am] Mitch K: ok nice, you bot below the bid when the signal came right?  thats what i do, buy at bid or slightly below, dpeends
[10:48 am] Mitch K: does it bother me that GS kept going down and there was a buy signal to cover?  not at all, its money in teh bucket, prob more efficient than i could do and im on to another stock or managing other open positions
[10:49 am] Mitch K: im a little surprised there was a buy signal so soon but im not stressed about it,
[10:50 am] Mitch K: two part answer on that doji, 1) i wait for a sell signal as my stop, and 2) common sense was that support would have been around 109.30
[10:51 am] Mitch K: wait a second, i am looking at older version 1c, should be on 1f
[10:51 am] Mitch K: typical support area you would see buying
[10:52 am] Mitch K: lol, this is most recent version
[10:53 am] Mitch K: on f version now
[10:53 am] Mitch K: we finished the main improvement on saturday night, then make tweaks, still needs testing
[10:54 am] Mitch K: he has errors on the diamonds here, not big deal on corrections
[10:55 am] Mitch K: EURUSD
[10:56 am] Mitch K: diamond is price when signal occurred
[10:57 am] Mitch K: i will make you guys a killer deal with this tool, i mean ridiculous.  but you have to do a few simple things in return
[10:59 am] Mitch K: yes i just looked at RIG, buy signal 2 min ago
[10:59 am] Mitch K: i need some intelligent feedback written by you, after about 2 months of using it.  1) tell me what problems you are having on using it.  2) how you are being successful with it and 3) share you success on a webcam recording
[11:01 am] Mitch K: and i will grandfather your pricing as long as you keep it.  after this beta version, you guys still keep ridiculous pricing but future users will go to higher pricing.  what we get as a core group working together is something i hope is really special.  and that will be a firm understanding how to profit from it, good signals from more people, and whole lot of fun
[11:02 am] Mitch K: plus you might pitch in once in a while and help a new person get started
[11:04 am] Mitch K: you click the Account Perfomance tab and get trades from any day in the past you made through NInja
[11:04 am] Mitch K: see this lisas?
[11:04 am] Mitch K: the alert window is a log of signals but you can get your account performance from Ninja
[11:05 am] Mitch K: if you did not use ninja to link to your own broker, then use your brokerage firms history for trades you made
[11:06 am] Mitch K: what i really want to do is create a really special place where there are more ideas of higher quality and people that are supporting the idea of a really special team
[11:08 am] Mitch K: i have already outlined a work schedule for programmer for additional tools as add-ons that help performance
[11:08 am] Mitch K: i will teach you what i know and you guys teach us what you have learned.  this will put everyone on the same playing level.  wont have any diff between really great traders or new traders.  the signals become the same.  and we will continue to improve and come out with new versions and tools to add to this
[11:09 am] Mitch K: especially in futures and forex where everything is more time sensitive and price sensitive
[11:10 am] Mitch K: i dont know yet qwert, prob 3 weeks off, not sure.   you going on vacation?
[11:11 am] Mitch K: i havent looked at wheat for a week
[11:11 am] Mitch K: ok lisa, here is wheat coming up
[11:11 am] Mitch K: wont be this week qwert
[11:12 am] Mitch K: here is what i know about wheat.  not kidding.  it goes in bread and there is a sell signal in that blue circle
[11:12 am] Mitch K: you like this trrade lisa, it is real time
[11:13 am] Mitch K: we make more bread if we short that sell signal
[11:14 am] Mitch K: its bleeding red because i didnt load enough history
[11:14 am] Mitch K: corn corn corn, nuttin but corn
[11:15 am] Mitch K: ok there you go, corrected
[11:16 am] Mitch K: does that bother me i breakeven?
[11:16 am] Mitch K: ok see this little small moves, you dont make money on those.  its a breakeven. i show you connect dots.  if it is level with horizon = breakeven less about $5 round trip commission per contract.
[11:17 am] Mitch K: look at the trade you made before and the one after
[11:17 am] Mitch K: should it bother you if it is a breakeven or even a slight loss?  no
[11:18 am] Mitch K: just focus on one thing at a time at first, dont chase too many eggs with too many new things.  anytime you make a change in your routine, you got to go back to practicing, gradually introduce new routine.  if you do it all at once, you usually lose money
[11:19 am] Mitch K: RIG
[11:19 am] Mitch K: ok later lisa
[11:19 am] Mitch K: make sure you understand first
[11:20 am] Mitch K: ok lesson over
[11:20 am] Mitch K: blue circle makes you homeless, dont trade flat charts on this system or any other system
[11:21 am] Mitch K: the programmer thinks i should work on the no trading zone before beta release.  i said no, that is a black hole that takes months and it is a usable tool now
[11:22 am] Mitch K: and i told him i am not convinced that we will gain much
[11:22 am] Mitch K: ive tried the no trading zone and it really applies to futures and forex better or more easily than stocks
[11:23 am] Mitch K: i will get this cleaned up a little more, some small tweaks and get it packaged up for you.  i will outline my proposal for you as a small group ok?
[11:26 am] Mitch K: ok one more thing
[11:32 am] Mitch K: there was a programmer that i was working with for 6 months on this project.  just before we were finished he decided ask me for some unreasonably high amount of money and we had already paid him more than our original contract. so he never sent me the program.  i had to start the whole project over with another programmer.  in the meantime, the unethical programmer has been contacting some of our customers and competitors trying to sell it.  that is why this has been such a delay.  SO don’t respond to his requests, ok?
[11:33 am] Ed : if u took CLF long would reduce some
[11:33 am] Mitch K: RIG is still on strong uptrend
[11:34 am] Mitch K: i cant say rusty, i’d probably get sued, lol
[11:34 am] Mitch K: i should have known when he was bragging about being a hacker in his past.  red flag went up in my mind
[11:36 am] Mitch K: no sell signal in RIG yet mike, it s solidly  moving up
[11:36 am] Mitch K: i think people make more money and have more success if they are ethical and have character
[11:37 am] Mitch K: this rise in SPY is helping float the longs higher
[11:39 am] Mitch K: now on something like the JCP news, common sense for me was it only moved up 30-35 cents and it just isnt enough of a move to try for a reversal
[11:40 am] Mitch K: when i first looked at JCP was around 26.55 or 26.58 area so you need to use common sense that it isnt enough of a move yet.  but is getting better of an idea as it goes up.
[11:42 am] Mitch K: JCP tgoppy
[11:42 am] Mitch K: SPY is still pointing up, market floating up, squeeze more money out of your longs
[12:06 pm] Ed : getting some selling in SPY
[12:14 pm] Mitch K: yes mike, sell signal was at 1157am pacific time, $46.75 on RIG
[12:16 pm] Ed : MJN on the move
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: those really fast ones are trickier
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: the blue mark is where i saw it start moving up
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: and cover
[12:17 pm] Mitch K: this is JCP short
[12:18 pm] Mitch K: almost 2%
[12:18 pm] Mitch K: good money for end of day when youare already burnt toast
[12:24 pm] Ed : was nice breakout but missed
[12:24 pm] Ed : stil monitoring MJN
[12:25 pm] Mitch K: sell signal on 1 min with MJN
[12:26 pm] Mitch K: but not sell signal on 1 min yet
[12:27 pm] Mitch K: to answer your question about going long chingo on JCP after a buy to cover signal . . . . I dont like to take a new one so late in day, especially since this was probably a pop up on some rumor or flash news that wasnt that big of an event
[12:28 pm] Mitch K: even though MJN moving nice, you only have 30 min and many of these take a lot longer, maybe an hour
[12:30 pm] Mitch K: just getting sell signal on 2 min MJN
[12:39 pm] Mitch K: ok later joey
[12:46 pm] Ed : would cover MJN short on this drop
[12:47 pm] Ed : running out of time
[12:57 pm] Ed : have a great evening traders

[06:44 am] doji  : PCLN
[06:44 am] khall  : BIDU just a drop this morning
[06:44 am] doji  : at yesterday’s low
[06:45 am] doji  : NFLX weak
[06:45 am] joeytsa  : yeah khall, trying to hold $113
[06:45 am] doji  : /ES lost 1400
[06:46 am] joeytsa  : nice call on NOV Mitch
[06:48 am] doji  : ?ES holding 1400 fo now
[06:49 am] joeytsa  : looks like it doji
[06:50 am] mikewd2 -: i see ES at 1401.75
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: am i looking at delayed or what?
[06:51 am] joeytsa  : its there now
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: 1401
[06:51 am] doji  : MCP
[06:51 am] doji  : You are right Mike
[06:51 am] mikewd2 -: ok
[06:51 am] doji  : Watching SBUX
[06:52 am] doji  : and LEN
[06:52 am] mikewd2 -: doji, you get in MCP?
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: i’m in 10.83
[06:53 am] mikewd2 -: looking for 11.30 area
[06:53 am] doji  : SLB
[06:54 am] doji  : Nope Mike
[06:54 am] doji  : But I got SLB
[06:55 am] mikewd2 -: nice bounces on SLB
[06:56 am] doji  : FSLR moving
[06:57 am] doji  : all out SLB
[06:57 am] mikewd2 -: WLT
[06:58 am] mikewd2 -: WFT getting some upgrades
[06:58 am] doji  : sell short
[07:00 am] joeytsa  : tighten CLF if long
[07:02 am] mikewd2 -: nice one joey
[07:02 am] doji  : Watching FB again
[07:03 am] shark  : FRAN over vwap
[07:04 am] shark  : correction: testing vwap FRAN
[07:08 am] doji  : SBUX flirting with 50…. just getting tired waiting for the breakout
[07:08 am] doji  : NFLX
[07:09 am] shark  : 🙂
[07:09 am] joeytsa  : doji: you looking to go long SBUX right
[07:10 am] doji  : Yes Joey
[07:11 am] joeytsa  : can you put in a buy stop to trigger?
[07:11 am] doji  : Yes, most probably around 50.3
[07:12 am] joeytsa  : tomorrow should be a bit volatile with ecb press conference/dragi speaking/ unemployment claims
[07:13 am] shark  : thx joey
[07:14 am] joeytsa  : ES selling off
[07:14 am] rusty  : MERKEL TELLS LAWMAKERS SHE OPPOSES UNLIMITED ECB BOND PURCHASES
[07:15 am] doji  : “unlimited”
[07:15 am] joeytsa  : thx rusty,  also saw that lots of people in spain are pulling money out of the banks and leaving
[07:15 am] go4it  : Rusty did you or are you gonna short rprx?
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : MO big spike
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : not as big as it looked sorry
[07:16 am] khall  : CLF turning over
[07:16 am] doji  : Joey, are in LNKD?
[07:16 am] joeytsa  : scaling threw me off
[07:17 am] joeytsa  : no doji
[07:17 am] qwert  : monitoring CONN
[07:18 am] doji  : COON 52-week high, very strong
[07:18 am] doji  : 9.6% up
[07:18 am] joeytsa  : CONN not COON
[07:19 am] shark  : thx, Ed
[07:19 am] joeytsa  : i see that Ed, thanks
[07:20 am] joeytsa  : YELP having a decent day
[07:21 am] mikewd2 -: joey did you short CLF
[07:21 am] joeytsa  : nope, watching to see if $34 holds
[07:22 am] joeytsa  : i try to avoid shorting strong stocks unless i have a good reason to
[07:23 am] joeytsa  : cant short YELP on lightspeed
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: yeah nice bounce on CLF, but wouldn’t call it a strong stock
[07:23 am] mikewd2 -: very nice downtrend on daily
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : $2 smooth run up, is strong in my books
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: yeah today
[07:24 am] joeytsa  : thats the only day im trading 🙂
[07:24 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[07:25 am] doji  : hahha nice Joey
[07:26 am] mikewd2 -: WFT nearing 12
[07:26 am] joeytsa  : ES trying to break from 1min triangle
[07:26 am] doji  : SPY spiking
[07:27 am] doji  : SBUX riding the 5MA… No in the stock
[07:28 am] doji  : Joey, look at LNKD
[07:28 am] joeytsa  : yeah im looking at it  haha
[07:29 am] shark  : LNKD upgrade to $140 at Jeffries
[07:29 am] doji  : nice run today… missed although… this TOS platform is painfully slow
[07:29 am] joeytsa  : made a mistake not buying that pullback to the 111.50/15ma
[07:29 am] shark  : TOS or your internet, doji?
[07:29 am] doji  : Both
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : doji needs faster carrier pigeons
[07:30 am] shark  : rofl
[07:30 am] doji  : cannot basically trade in “real time”… I am 3-4 seconds delayed in my trade confirmations
[07:30 am] shark  : LNKD vol very high -could have pocket pivot today
[07:30 am] joeytsa  : that wont kill you if you are looking for bigger moves
[07:30 am] lisas  : Hope you get that sorted out soon doji!
[07:31 am] lisas  : LNKD also hit IBD buy point
[07:32 am] shark  : nice lisa 🙂
[07:32 am] doji  : My got, having a slow connection is just frustrating
[07:32 am] doji  : god
[07:34 am] doji  : Here it’s SBUX
[07:34 am] doji  : gone
[07:37 am] shark  : c it, Mitch
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: on which stock, FDX?
[07:38 am] lisas  : ok, not just me, only see FDX and TNA charts
[07:38 am] mikewd2 -: right, that was my point
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: i see fdx, tna
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: what do you see shark?
[07:39 am] lisas  : Shark sees everything
[07:39 am] lisas  : all seeing all knowing
[07:39 am] qwert  : hahaha
[07:39 am] mikewd2 -: shark just agrees with mitch
[07:40 am] shark  : 😉
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: brown nose shark
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: haha
[07:40 am] shark  : haha
[07:40 am] joeytsa  : haha
[07:40 am] doji  : SBUX at 200dMA
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: nice short in SLB doji
[07:40 am] mikewd2 -: nice 70 cent moves
[07:41 am] scalpman  : MJN S @ 75.02
[07:42 am] shark  : nice job, Mitch -YELP
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: SINA moved from 43 to 60 this month
[07:44 am] mikewd2 -: last 30 days
[07:45 am] shark  : lot of red candles on MNST thses days
[07:45 am] doji  : FB
[07:46 am] shark  : testing R2 res- FB
[07:47 am] shark  : 18.70 high of gap down on 8/31
[07:49 am] mikewd2 -: getting a bit of selling
[07:51 am] qwert  : thx mitch
[07:56 am] scalpman  : CME consolidating
[07:56 am] scalpman  : 50% retrace on SPY
[07:58 am] mikewd2 -: 7.9 quake off coast of costa rica
[07:58 am] shark  : yes, I see that break of 50 day on heavy vol, Mitch
[07:59 am] shark  : I also remember the Snapple fiasco AFTER quaker oats lost a lot of $$$ on that purchase
[08:02 am] shark  : probably why KO quickly came out and said they weren’t going to buy MNST on that 1 day rumor
[08:06 am] rusty  : FSLR –  Chinese Solar Panel Firms Prepare for Europe Probe – neg for YGE, CSIQ,      &nbs; p;  http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/09/05/ch inese-solar-panel-firms-prepare-for-europe-pr obe
[08:08 am] shark  : thx rusty
[08:11 am] shark  : missed qucik bounce -LULU
[08:15 am] mikewd2 -: out MCP 11.13, in 10.83
[08:15 am] qwert  : DVA new hod
[08:20 am] ben4givn  : nok for bottom
[08:20 am] joeytsa  : hfxtrader, are you here?
[08:26 am] joeytsa  : RGR steady up
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: nice 40 cent move on WFT after sell off
[08:27 am] joeytsa  : nice mike
[08:27 am] mikewd2 -: but i didn’t get it
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: couldn’t pull the trigger
[08:28 am] joeytsa  : on to the next one right
[08:28 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[08:29 am] shark  : LULU testing hod and b/e
[08:29 am] shark  : (earnings Friday)
[08:32 am] scalpman  : Mitch sell signal on LULU?
[08:34 am] scalpman  : missed lulu
[08:34 am] shark  : 🙁
[08:36 am] scalpman  : Might get lulu on lower high
[08:40 am] joeytsa  : RGR up, people buying guns 🙂
[08:41 am] scalpman  : DVA S @ 103.62
[08:42 am] qwert  : thx
[08:47 am] scalpman  : Cover 1/2 DVA S
[08:51 am] scalpman  : I had my chance…I waited…but got DVA instead
[08:52 am] scalpman  : DVA breaking through 50% retrace…heading lower…?
[08:53 am] qwert  : Watching FRAN
[08:54 am] scalpman  : All out DVA S
[08:55 am] scalpman  : FRAN support (lo) at 30.25
[08:55 am] eyes  : S RGR 46.96 Still Trailing
[08:56 am] qwert  : nice trade eyes
[08:58 am] scalpman  : Red and green together makes brown. I’ve had “brown…y” day.
[08:58 am] eyes  : Teva new low
[08:58 am] scalpman  : Time to go…see you all tomorrow…
[08:58 am] shark  : bye scalp 🙂
[08:58 am] qwert  : cya scalp
[09:00 am] scalpman  : Bye guys…Scalpman has left the building!
[09:00 am] lisas  : bye scalp
[09:00 am] shark  : MNST bounce
[09:02 am] khall  : bye scalp
[09:03 am] lisas  : yes
[09:03 am] khall  : yes
[09:03 am] Ed : nice
[09:04 am] lisas  : yes
[09:04 am] khall  : 🙂
[09:04 am] lisas  : although took me two tries, but in the green
[09:05 am] shark  : 😉
[09:08 am] shark  : MNST some res at vwap
[09:09 am] Ed : hey eyes u say u shorted 46.96??
[09:09 am] Mitch K: eyes, was that 46.69 on the RGR short entry?
[09:09 am] eyes  : S RGR 46.69 out 45.68
[09:10 am] Mitch K: ok good one
[09:10 am] qwert  : great trade
[09:12 am] shark  : awesome eyes!
[09:13 am] shark  : MNST fighting vwap, 10min ma area
[09:13 am] khall  : congrats eyes
[09:14 am] shark  : consider tightening stop if took long
[09:18 am] shark  : out 1/2 MNST long
[09:19 am] shark  : MNST move
[09:22 am] shark  : out 1/4 more MNST l
[09:25 am] joeytsa  : nice trade shark
[09:26 am] Ed : nice trade shark
[09:26 am] shark  : thx Ed
[09:26 am] shark  : 55.67 stop for last 1/4 MNST
[09:34 am] joeytsa  : 50cent spike in Z
[09:44 am] shark  : 55.74 new stop last 1/4 MNST
[09:44 am] shark  : right below 200min ma
[09:45 am] eyes  : See you all later got to leave for a while
[09:46 am] shark  : cya eyes
[09:46 am] Ed : c ya eyes
[09:56 am] shark  : keep moving stop up if you took MNST long-
[09:59 am] shark  : Awesome, Mitch!
[10:00 am] Ed : i only got 35 ticks when i took it
[10:01 am] Ed : goes to show no matter the level can help squeeze more mone
[10:01 am] qwert  : we r ready
[10:02 am] doji  : Who won?
[10:02 am] doji  : The men or the machine?
[10:03 am] shark  : wow!
[10:04 am] doji  : Yeap
[10:04 am] shark  : out last 1/4 MNST 55.90
[10:04 am] mikewd2 -: MCP vol spike
[10:04 am] qwert  : everyday
[10:04 am] shark  : totally, Mitch
[10:04 am] shark  : get out too soon, usually
[10:05 am] shark  : have fear of extra drop on my longs
[10:06 am] lisas  : It applies especially to my first target, think I could often get more on that
[10:06 am] lisas  : but want to get risk free quickly
[10:12 am] shark  : yeah, scalp got out way too early DVA short first half
[10:12 am] shark  : left lot on table MNST long too, now
[10:12 am] shark  : still going 🙁
[10:16 am] doji  : at the blu marks?
[10:16 am] qwert  : so almost 1% diff
[10:19 am] lisas  : leave this up a little longer Mitch, stepped away so just seeing this
[10:19 am] qwert  : GS almost at 110
[10:20 am] lisas  : ok, got it all, thanks
[10:22 am] mikewd2 -: RGR was nice short, didn’t take it though
[10:23 am] mikewd2 -: CLF long consolidation
[10:23 am] shark  : ok, Mitch
[10:23 am] shark  : 🙂
[10:26 am] shark  : YES
[10:26 am] qwert  : yes
[10:28 am] victor51  : Mitch, I believe the Lightening will be a big help to new traders like me
[10:28 am] shark  : 🙂 agreed
[10:29 am] qwert  : and they follow the older ones?
[10:30 am] qwert  : yep
[10:30 am] shark  : yeah
[10:32 am] Ed : SPY breaking down
[10:32 am] shark  : agreed, Mitch
[10:33 am] shark  : SPY turns negative
[10:33 am] qwert  : short at 109.95 on gs
[10:33 am] victor51  : Ed big drop BIDU
[10:34 am] Ed : right trading near lows of day, it will be on my radar for 2morrow
[10:37 am] qwert  : yes
[10:37 am] mikewd2 -: understand Mitch
[10:39 am] shark  : lighthing ez!
[10:40 am] qwert  : leave it up and i will use for my short exit  :))
[10:40 am] shark  : nice qwert
[10:41 am] shark  : HOV reports before open tomorrow
[10:41 am] shark  : unusual options on Sep 3 calls -1600 traded
[10:42 am] shark  : 6-7% move to break even –
[10:44 am] doji  : FB
[10:45 am] shark  : thx, Mitch
[10:45 am] khall  : this will be great for consistency.  I’d rather be consistent that stay in something and give away profits, no matter how small they are
[10:46 am] doji  : Watching SBUX
[10:46 am] qwert  : okay out gs 109.57
[10:46 am] qwert  : yep covered
[10:47 am] shark  : anybody catch MNSt short after the top?
[10:47 am] shark  : also turning out nice, missed it
[10:47 am] qwert  : yes
[10:48 am] qwert  : i usually put order in below then just stay ready to bump
[10:49 am] doji  : But waht about if you used the buy signal to go long in GS Mitch?
[10:49 am] doji  : Personally, there is not potential on the upside in GS
[10:49 am] doji  : so I wouldn’t go long
[10:50 am] qwert  : exactly doji
[10:50 am] mikewd2 -: RIG
[10:50 am] doji  : We need to combine Lightening signals with the overall picture of the stock to enter a trade
[10:50 am] doji  : no beacuse Lightining give you a sinal you have to follow
[10:51 am] doji  : right
[10:51 am] doji  : Support plus reversal with Lightening buy signal woud be ideal
[10:52 am] khall  : that ‘splains everything
[10:52 am] doji  : hahah
[10:52 am] shark  : totally 🙂
[10:52 am] shark  : lighting 2.0
[10:52 am] lisas  : aha, you know how anything older is!
[10:52 am] shark  : BETA version
[10:54 am] qwert  : low
[10:54 am] qwert  : monitoring low
[10:54 am] doji  : What is the diamond function?
[10:56 am] shark  : you the red, green squares doji?
[10:56 am] shark  : you see…
[10:56 am] shark  : lying on side like a diamond
[10:56 am] mikewd2 -: ES bounce from below 1400
[10:57 am] mikewd2 -: RIG trying to turn
[10:58 am] khall  : okay
[10:58 am] mikewd2 -: works for me mitch
[10:58 am] khall  : what would you like?
[10:59 am] doji  : Upppsss
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: you get a buy signal on RIG, Mitch?
[10:59 am] doji  : We got a “buy” signal in Lightening Mike… hahaha
[10:59 am] doji  : deal!
[10:59 am] mikewd2 -: don’t have a webcam
[11:00 am] chinhngo  : a few simples thing in return  ofcourse must be for your knowledge and your time
[11:00 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch, me too
[11:00 am] khall  : deal
[11:01 am] mikewd2 -: oh, maybe i’m thinking pc cam – whats a web cam?
[11:02 am] khall  : mike, I’ll probably have my hubs do the video with our camera that takes video
[11:02 am] shark  : 🙂
[11:03 am] shark  : awesome, Mitch
[11:03 am] lisas  : might also be good to have some trade records
[11:03 am] khall  : that’s a great deal for us
[11:03 am] khall  : good idea Lisas
[11:03 am] victor51  : Mitch, great deal
[11:04 am] lisas  : Yes
[11:04 am] qwert  : nice
[11:05 am] mikewd2 -: I think you can do that in TS also
[11:05 am] lisas  : That would be good to show for Lightning results
[11:05 am] victor51  : Mitch, the buy signal to cover is not necesserily buy for new position. is that true? How do you distinguish??
[11:05 am] lisas  : Yes Mike
[11:05 am] qwert  : show us yours from yesterday  :))
[11:06 am] lisas  : I don’t know Ninja well, but TS can isolate specific symbols for the analysis, so you can show just the system trades
[11:06 am] mikewd2 -: looking like a weak bounce on spy thus far
[11:07 am] khall  : well, we have the team part – that’s for sure
[11:07 am] shark  : yeah, mike
[11:08 am] qwert  : This is just gonna make the room even better
[11:08 am] lisas  : works for me!
[11:08 am] mikewd2 -: RIG long not working very well yet, may add on hold of lod
[11:08 am] chinhngo  : your sound is really good for us
[11:09 am] qwert  : Do you know when the webinar will be Mitch
[11:10 am] lisas  : Since I’m thinking about it, everyone that plans on trading grain futures needs to learn about limits days
[11:10 am] doji  : RIG and SLB are weak becuase of BP Mike
[11:10 am] doji  : I am going on a business trip for 2 weeks next week Mike
[11:10 am] qwert  : just from this thursday to sunday have to go to boston to help out my son
[11:11 am] khall  : limits days?
[11:11 am] doji  : so if you can release Lightening the last week of September that will be great
[11:11 am] lisas  : nice trend! $50 per cent
[11:11 am] doji  : Go ahead Lisas
[11:12 am] lisas  : Can’t, have to leave in just a sec, so done trading for day.
[11:13 am] qwert  : love it mitch same here
[11:13 am] lisas  : Wheat is thinner than soy and corn.
[11:15 am] rusty  : @politicalwire: Hackers claim to have obtained Mitt Romney’s tax returns from a Pricewaterhouse Coopers office
[11:15 am] shark  : cool
[11:16 am] shark  : about the corn, that is
[11:16 am] khall  : no, because it’s not a loss
[11:17 am] shark  : not at all, Mitch
[11:19 am] lisas  : Taking off, thanks Mitch, Ed! Have a great afternoon all.
[11:19 am] khall  : mike, are you still long RIG?  later lisa
[11:19 am] shark  : bye lisa
[11:19 am] qwert  : cya lisa
[11:20 am] mikewd2 -: yes khall
[11:20 am] khall  : 🙂
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch
[11:21 am] shark  : thx, M 🙂
[11:21 am] khall  : can’t wait for this Mitch
[11:21 am] khall  : exciting stuff
[11:21 am] mikewd2 -: CLF moving again
[11:22 am] shark  : i agree w/you Mitch
[11:22 am] qwert  : agree with you mk
[11:23 am] khall  : sounds good
[11:24 am] mikewd2 -: yep
[11:24 am] shark  : ok
[11:24 am] qwert  : were ready
[11:24 am] shark  : AAPL bounce off pivot
[11:25 am] mikewd2 -: selling half RIG here, 46.58
[11:26 am] shark  : what’s your sell signal, mike?
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: tight 10 cent trailing stop
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: 50% retracement on the drop
[11:26 am] victor51  : I am quite happy with the refined product. I will be ready ….
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: off the last drop
[11:26 am] shark  : ok, thx, mike
[11:26 am] mikewd2 -: not great money but looked like easy trade
[11:28 am] victor51  : Mike Nice trade. RIG
[11:28 am] mikewd2 -: not liking it all out
[11:29 am] mikewd2 -: interesting to see if lightning would have keep the trade going?
[11:29 am] shark  : yeah, mike
[11:29 am] qwert  : watching JCP
[11:29 am] victor51  : Sorry, I was on wrong chart
[11:30 am] rusty  : JC PENNEY `VERY ENCOURAGED’ BY AUGUST SHOPS’ PERFORMANCE: CFO
[11:31 am] rusty  : JCP
[11:31 am] khall  : Probably back to school sales
[11:32 am] victor51  : Mike, No, RIG long is doing fine.. You see something else??
[11:32 am] khall  : okay
[11:33 am] shark  : awful
[11:33 am] mikewd2 -: understand Mitch
[11:33 am] qwert  : Wow thats awful
[11:33 am] shark  : cant’ stand guys like that
[11:34 am] khall  : karma is a b*&^h – it will come back
[11:34 am] rusty  : what is the name of the guy we shouldnt respond to?
[11:34 am] shark  : 🙂
[11:35 am] qwert  : so far nobody has tried to contact me
[11:35 am] victor51  : KHALL, do you believe in Karma theory? interesting
[11:36 am] khall  : well, it keeps me from strangling people … LOL
[11:36 am] joeytsa  : hha
[11:36 am] mikewd2 -: i see sell signal in RIG
[11:37 am] mikewd2 -: yeah, Mitch anticipated the sell signal never actually received it
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: so lightning would have been worth at least another 10 cent on RIG trade
[11:38 am] khall  : plus mike, we talked yesterday about managing on a 2 min chart
[11:38 am] mikewd2 -: that’s 25%,
 [11:38 am] khall  : yeah, I usually do as well
 [11:39 am] khall  : without all the data… 🙂
[11:40 am] mikewd2 -: MCP getting higher highs, higher lows since lod
[11:42 am] doji  : JCP moving
[11:44 am] mikewd2 -: missed my JCP short entry
[11:44 am] shark  : LNKD hitting continuous res at 114.60 area here
[11:46 am] doji  : Are you taking it long Shark?
[11:47 am] shark  : it would have to break above that level on high vol
[11:47 am] shark  : LNKD has pocket pivot vol and base breakout today
[11:47 am] shark  : but many of them have failed in the past
[11:47 am] shark  : so looking more for short, doji
[11:47 am] doji  : I know you love Pocket Pivots
[11:48 am] shark  : and buyable gapups!!!
[11:48 am] shark  : like TIF, when it broke down from buy able gapup
[11:48 am] doji  : Do you search for those pocket pivots manually or have a scan?
[11:48 am] shark  : perfect short
[11:48 am] shark  : scan
[11:49 am] doji  : What sacn?
[11:49 am] shark  : tc2000
[11:49 am] shark  : worden platinum
[11:49 am] doji  : Thanks
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: RIG still moving
[11:50 am] shark  : yup, mike
[11:50 am] shark  : you still have 1/2?
[11:50 am] mikewd2 -: nope
[11:51 am] doji  : SLB hitting VWAP
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: dumped at same price, was taking too long
[11:51 am] mikewd2 -: 0/1 trying to beat lightning haha
[11:51 am] shark  : for sure
[11:52 am] shark  : PCLN drop, watching
[11:53 am] shark  : nice one on JCP, Mitch
[11:53 am] Ed : just as an example of what Mitch was speaking of with light, we got the long on CLF breaking 34.50 but how many got the short that took that long trade when it gave signal
[11:54 am] Ed : myslef inluded got the long but not the short
[11:55 am] Ed : did anyone take the long on CLF?
[11:56 am] mikewd2 -: Joey called it early this morning
[11:56 am] Ed : speaking of when I called it t bout hour ago
[11:57 am] mikewd2 -: sorry no, i was watching consolidation all morning, but didnt take it
[11:57 am] Ed : ok
[11:59 am] khall  : out all RIG
[11:59 am] shark  : nice khall
[11:59 am] mikewd2 -: nice khall, way better than me
[12:00 pm] khall  : I wouldn’t have had the trade if not for you — I just am having a patient day – LOL
[12:00 pm] shark  : 🙂
[12:00 pm] mikewd2 -: np, send me share to ….. lol
[12:00 pm] khall  : sure thing 😉
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: i think JCP short was one where my entry should have been market on the short
[12:01 pm] mikewd2 -: narrow spread at the time and would have got in
[12:03 pm] mikewd2 -: Mitch, i assume you got sell on RIG
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : mike: market order would have worked
[12:05 pm] mikewd2 -: yep
[12:05 pm] joeytsa  : or a sell stop?
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: good point
[12:06 pm] joeytsa  : for a short
[12:06 pm] mikewd2 -: getting another little sell off
[12:14 pm] mikewd2 -: thanks Mitch
[12:15 pm] mikewd2 -: wow – nice
[12:18 pm] mikewd2 -: yep
[12:19 pm] chinhngo  : can i go long on jcp at 26.37
[12:19 pm] doji  : Watching MJN
[12:23 pm] mikewd2 -: doesn’t seem like a good trade to me chinhngo
[12:23 pm] shark  : me neither, chinhgo
[12:23 pm] shark  : not much time in day, either
[12:24 pm] qwert  : anyone long MJN
[12:25 pm] qwert  : i missed it
[12:25 pm] doji  : haha, I was looking for short
[12:25 pm] qwert  : resistance 77.t0 area
[12:25 pm] qwert  : 77.70
[12:26 pm] doji  : woow too quick
[12:26 pm] doji  : still strong
[12:26 pm] joeytsa  : IOC has been a nice climber
[12:26 pm] doji  : Sell or not sell Mitch?
[12:27 pm] khall  : he meant not sell signal on 2 min yet
[12:27 pm] joeytsa  : that is the question 🙂
[12:27 pm] khall  : I think…
[12:27 pm] mikewd2 -: always the question
[12:28 pm] chinhngo  : thank mr MITCH
[12:30 pm] skydiver  : Back on for a bit – just observing for now, no trading, but learning 🙂
[12:30 pm] joeytsa  : sky: you hook up your foot pedals to buy/sell CRM  🙂
[12:30 pm] doji  : aggg my order on MJN was not filled….
[12:30 pm] doji  : for 3 cents!!!!!!!!!!
[12:31 pm] skydiver  : yeah joey – this morning – been setting up my system – and now getting used to it —
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : sounds good
[12:31 pm] skydiver  : a couple more tweaks and should be ready to go
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : nice
[12:31 pm] chinhngo  : short mjn at market
[12:31 pm] joeytsa  : Germany’s PMI @ 47%..lowest since june ’09
[12:33 pm] joeytsa  : i see that TS signed up with Recognia
[12:34 pm] joeytsa  : got an email this morning with pattern setups
[12:35 pm] mikewd2 -: yeah, i saw that joey – nice
[12:35 pm] mikewd2 -: looked like some swing recommendations
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : yeah, i tracked them for daytrades..too slow
[12:36 pm] mikewd2 -: MCP slowing getting higher highs
[12:36 pm] joeytsa  : schwab and lightspeed also have a pact with them
[12:39 pm] joeytsa  : Thanks Mitch,Ed, everyone…have a great day, see you tomorrow
[12:39 pm] Ed : c ya joey
[12:39 pm] qwert  : cya joey
[12:39 pm] khall  : bye joey
[12:39 pm] mikewd2 -: bye joey
[12:40 pm] joeytsa  : find me later mike, i will be playing the horses after 2pm my time 🙂
[12:47 pm] chinhngo  : buy cover mjn thank mr mitch
[12:58 pm] ben4givn  : Thanks everyone
[12:58 pm] khall  : thanks for the great calls today – see you guys tomorrow
[01:02 pm] victor51  : See you all tomorrow.
[01:42 pm] rusty  : Z secondary offering
[01:43 pm] rusty  : gn all

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