(05:10 am) taco :gm Qwert and everyone
(05:11 am) taco :/GC is moving nice
(05:21 am) taco :/CL looking for bottom..
(05:23 am) Qwert :gm everyone CL is nice
(05:28 am) taco :NFLX had big move last
night for earnings, should be good today
(05:50 am) taco :FIRE is potential
aquisition
(05:53 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning
Mitch,Qwert,everyone
(05:54 am) JoeyTSA :HPI # in 5 minutes,
Rochmond manufacturing # @ 7pdt
(05:55 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down ;
NFLX,PENN,QXII,ISIS,RYAAY
(05:56 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up :
FIREmPANW,DD,CSE,FTNT,PACW
(05:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx taco for FIRE info
(05:57 am) JoeyTSA :FIRE being bought by
CSCO
(05:57 am) taco :np looked like a buyout.
thx for gaps joey
(05:58 am) JoeyTSA :yeahm anytime i see a gap
with price stuck i assume some type of buyout
etc
(05:58 am) taco :right
(06:00 am) taco :ARRY gap up also
*** ladybug , Welcome to the
TradeStocksAmerica Live Trading Room
(06:02 am) JoeyTSA :ARRY had positive tests
for an asthma drug
(06:02 am) JoeyTSA :2 nice moves on /CL so
far
(06:03 am) taco :yes
(06:03 am) JoeyTSA :actually 4, might as well
play it while its hot
(06:05 am) taco :nice trendline top /CL
(06:13 am) JoeyTSA :watching /CL 106, 106.25
range for move
(06:14 am) JoeyTSA :/ES in 2 pt range at the
moment
(06:14 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Ed, Murano,
everyone else who signed in after last gm
🙂
(06:14 am) taco :not sure what QXII is joey,
maybe typo?
(06:14 am) Murano :good morning
(06:15 am) taco :yes:)
(06:16 am) skydiver :Nice Mitdh — looking
forward to beta version 3 —
(06:17 am) skydiver :gm all by the way
(06:18 am) taco :lot of good premrkt setups,
should be good morn
(06:20 am) JoeyTSA :thx for list Mitch
(06:20 am) taco :thx mitch
(06:20 am) JoeyTSA :yes, that was a type, its
QSII
(06:21 am) JoeyTSA :both FIRE and PANW giving
nice pullback
(06:21 am) taco :whenever i type wrong
symbol my wife thinks im playing space
invaers lol
(06:21 am) herman :gm everyone
(06:24 am) JoeyTSA :my wife thinks this is
just one big video game
(06:26 am) taco 🙂
(06:35 am) JoeyTSA :quick moves so far, /ES
still stuck in 2pt range
(06:41 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX bery strong so far
(06:41 am) JoeyTSA :very
(06:42 am) JoeyTSA :AAPL a bit weak, GOOG
trying to hold $910
(06:47 am) JoeyTSA :GMCR still on my radar
though
(06:48 am) JoeyTSA :order on GMCR got filled
quick, in hindsight should have waited, but
thats trading
(06:49 am) skydiver :TSLA – coming up to a
double top
(06:49 am) JoeyTSA :good catch sky
(06:49 am) skydiver ::)
(06:51 am) JoeyTSA :/CL might be a lower tick
trade idea, may not even be worth the risk
(06:52 am) skydiver :out 3/4 on TSLA long
(06:52 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX,LNKD look to be
coiling for something
(06:52 am) JoeyTSA :great trade sky, held 123
and went up
(06:52 am) taco :nice sky:)
(06:53 am) skydiver :TSLA been nice to me
past couple of days
(06:53 am) JoeyTSA :AMGN a bit weak, just
watching
(06:53 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA long
(06:53 am) JoeyTSA :TSLA is your new JOY 🙂
(06:53 am) skydiver :I gues 🙂
(06:54 am) JoeyTSA :/ES just stuck in the
mud
(06:54 am) JoeyTSA :my shorter tick chart
looks funny
(06:55 am) JoeyTSA :mistake #2 today, didnt
reverse my GMCR position
(06:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed
(06:57 am) JoeyTSA :missed nice breakout on
WAT with that move to $100, on watch
(06:58 am) skydiver :I mis handled GPOR –
shorted to quick, but held on, fianlly coming
down into profit
(07:00 am) skydiver :all out of GPOR short
–
(07:02 am) skydiver :reminder to self — do
not look at the money – need more discipline
there
(07:04 am) JoeyTSA :that was a huge miss on
the richmond #
(07:04 am) JoeyTSA :only missed by 18 haha
(07:05 am) skydiver :that was a huge miss —
wow
(07:05 am) JoeyTSA :/ES lost that early
range, trying to hold 1690 here
(07:05 am) JoeyTSA :yeah sky, forex factory
had 7 as the forecast, 8 was the previous
month, so -11 is ugly
(07:06 am) skydiver :I guess — crazy
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA :just not sure how that
makes me money 🙂
(07:06 am) skydiver :if you find out, let
all of us know 🙂
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA ::)
(07:11 am) JoeyTSA :watchign /CL here
(07:15 am) taco :think just had earnings
(07:15 am) JoeyTSA :very nice on TEVA
(07:16 am) skydiver :Mylan announces
favoriable ruling ni patent infringement case
relating to TEVA
(07:16 am) taco :thx sky
(07:17 am) skydiver ::)
(07:17 am) taco :i think that’s from july
18th
(07:17 am) skydiver :sorry — you’re correct
. . . old old old news – need coffee!!
(07:18 am) taco :lol
(07:20 am) JoeyTSA :i didnt even have TEVA
listed for earnings
(07:22 am) JoeyTSA :never got that breakout
on SNDK from premarket mention, turned into
decent short though, wasnt in it
(07:24 am) taco :think im wrong re TEVA
earnings
(07:25 am) JoeyTSA :maybe, ihave them listed
for 7/24
(07:26 am) JoeyTSA :TEVA whisper is $1.67,
consensus estimate is 1.71
(07:26 am) skydiver :nice Murano on AIG
(07:29 am) JoeyTSA :since pop on FSLR,
nothing but lower highs
(07:29 am) skydiver :TSLA – monitoring
(07:30 am) Qwert :OXY holding up so far in
this mkt watching for breakout
(07:30 am) Qwert :if spy holds
(07:31 am) skydiver :thnx qwert
(07:33 am) Qwert :NAT coming back to open
price
(07:38 am) taco :NFLX held 251.5
(07:38 am) JoeyTSA :break time, see you in
20
(08:07 am) taco :nice DD qwert
(08:08 am) JoeyTSA :DD nice both ways
(08:09 am) Qwert :i missed the short but am
in the long now :))
(08:24 am) taco :ed, do you use after mrkt
and pre markt s/r when a stock moves as much
as NFLX did?
(08:25 am) Ed :yes
(08:37 am) JoeyTSA :glad i was watching HLF,
still missed the trade
(08:38 am) JoeyTSA :AMZN, NFLX lod area
(08:38 am) Qwert :i missed as well joey
hahaha
(08:39 am) JoeyTSA :gave me a dbl bot, no
divergence but decent on support level
(08:40 am) taco :joey, whats the pin you and
shark were talking about?
(08:40 am) JoeyTSA :its an options thing…
(08:41 am) JoeyTSA :on expiration day,
looking to see if a stock pins at a certain
price
(08:41 am) taco :ah thx, i found info on
pinochio bar but diff.
(08:41 am) JoeyTSA :ie: if you know or can
tell NFLX will pin at $250, you can sell the
higher calls/lower puts and take in
premium
(08:42 am) taco :right
(08:42 am) JoeyTSA :or again, if you kjnow
NFLX will close friday @ $250, and its at
$247, it might be a decent long going into
the close
(08:43 am) JoeyTSA :those are just
ideas/thoughts on pinning, not
recommendation to attempt blindly
(08:43 am) taco :right ty
(08:44 am) JoeyTSA :if you google ” weekly
option pinning ” or something to that effect,
you will get a few hits to articles etc
(08:45 am) JoeyTSA :cant say i would trade
solely off what i THINK might be the pin
level though
(08:46 am) JoeyTSA :but if i see conjunction
with other things, then a trade might set up
(08:48 am) JoeyTSA :the one thing you dont
want to do is overload your brain with a
bunch of different setups to look for
(08:48 am) taco :nice thanks, right
(08:52 am) taco :there were noo shorts at IB
for USU when it was at 13.50, still none must
be painful..
(08:53 am) Murano :none at Lightspeed
(08:53 am) JoeyTSA :didnt even bother to
look…
(08:53 am) JoeyTSA :Lightspeed had it listed
as T, usually means not shortable
(08:54 am) JoeyTSA :eye on USU for break over
$15 though
(08:56 am) Qwert :couldnt find any Mitch
(08:56 am) JoeyTSA :good thing about that is,
you only have to look for trades in 1
direction 🙂
(08:58 am) JoeyTSA :quick break, back in 30
(08:58 am) taco :NBS had nice move, enjoy
joey
(09:01 am) taco :TSLA dbl bot
(09:38 am) JoeyTSA :hope someone got HLF
(09:38 am) taco :i have same pp as you for
futures joey
(09:39 am) regatta :watching HERO, low
price
(09:43 am) JoeyTSA :taco, my pp is actually
set at 1689.75 is that where yours is?
(09:44 am) JoeyTSA :ps: nice call on the TSLA
dbl bot
(09:44 am) taco :no its bang on 1690.00
(09:44 am) JoeyTSA :weird how they are off a
bit
(09:44 am) taco :closer than for stocks tho
(09:45 am) JoeyTSA :im not using ninja for
stocks..
(09:45 am) JoeyTSA :but my Tradestation
pivots are different than my Lightspeed
pivots
(09:45 am) taco :for futures?
(09:45 am) JoeyTSA :so i just basically use
whichever, depending on the platform i am
watching
(09:46 am) JoeyTSA :yes, ninja only for
futures
(09:46 am) taco :ok
(09:47 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX testing $250
(09:56 am) taco :HERO was nice off support
(10:00 am) victor51 :Hi Joey
(10:05 am) JoeyTSA :hey victor, how have you
been? and how is your relative doing?
(10:07 am) Qwert :Joey u trade /TF
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i have, but not today
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :actually been a few
weeks
(10:08 am) Qwert :how many tics do you trail
your stops?
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i still watch it time to
time, but more focused on /ES,/YM,/CL
(10:09 am) JoeyTSA :it changes depending on
the action, but i start it off usually at 10
(10:10 am) Qwert :okay thx do you do the same
with /CL?
(10:10 am) JoeyTSA :also, usually dont trail,
i set a profit target and usually get out
there
(10:10 am) Qwert :10 tics profit tgt?
(10:10 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, again kind of
depends on the previous move
(10:11 am) JoeyTSA :when i use an atm, i have
it set at 10, but usually move it
(10:11 am) JoeyTSA :its kind of like playing
checkers h aha
(10:12 am) JoeyTSA :move one piece, then
another 🙂
(10:12 am) Qwert :okay thanks have been
watching it a little here and there?
(10:12 am) Qwert :sorry that wasnt a
question
(10:12 am) JoeyTSA :then at times i just keep
them static, whichever hits first hits
(10:13 am) taco :Murano, did you trade MAT?
(10:13 am) JoeyTSA :sorry it isnt really a
concrete answer, i tend to trade
instinctively at times..and do a lot of
guessing
(10:13 am) Qwert :oh its okay i totally
undersdtand
(10:14 am) JoeyTSA :main thing i try to do
with stocks and futures is to keep myself
from taking a big loss
(10:14 am) Murano :yes, taco small profit
and got stopped 2nd time MAT
(10:15 am) JoeyTSA :if you keep your r/r high
enough, you dont need a high hitrate to be
profitable
(10:15 am) JoeyTSA :problem is when the r/r
you want isnt hit, thats where flexibility
comes in
(10:16 am) victor51 :Joey, I was with him
last week. Doing much better with 70%
improvement. Gaining weight and will try new
stuff for last 30%. Thanks for asking.
(10:17 am) JoeyTSA :good to hear victor,
continued prayers
(10:18 am) JoeyTSA :tighten NFLX if long off
$250, im not in it
(10:19 am) JoeyTSA :retest was nice though,
the $250C went from $5.50 to over $7
(10:19 am) taco :ya beauty
(10:20 am) JoeyTSA :not bad for about 20min
(10:21 am) JoeyTSA :keep eye on it, lunch
time for me, see you soon
(10:22 am) Qwert :enjoy joey
(10:44 am) taco :DPZ like the whole #
(11:04 am) JoeyTSA :qwert : JNPR has earnings
today
(11:04 am) JoeyTSA :not sure when
(11:05 am) Qwert :yeah i saw that
(11:06 am) JoeyTSA :HLF now trying to hold
$58
(11:20 am) pirate :watching HLF
(11:23 am) Murano :CAT weak bounce so far
(11:25 am) regatta :watching BLMN
(11:31 am) JoeyTSA :DUST $3 selloff past 15
minutes or so
(11:42 am) JoeyTSA :is today earnings for
AAPL?
(11:43 am) Qwert :i think so joey
(11:43 am) Murano :yes APPL is today
(11:43 am) JoeyTSA :thx, wasnt on my normal
weekly earnings list, but noticed it at
earningswhisper
(11:44 am) JoeyTSA :got it, not i see it on
both thanks again
(11:44 am) JoeyTSA :now not not
(11:46 am) JoeyTSA :noticed the AAPL options
wer a bit higher priced
(11:55 am) JoeyTSA :pretty decent bounce on
HLF from the bottom
(11:55 am) taco :sure was
(11:55 am) taco :is
(11:56 am) JoeyTSA :been using the 50c lines
well
(12:01 pm) pirate :watching DPZ
(12:04 pm) taco :domioes pizza, had earnings
this morn
(12:04 pm) skydiver :HLF – very nice.
thanks . . . at office and jumped on it
(12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah, HLF nice
(12:04 pm) skydiver :I came in late, but
making some profit
(12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :you always do haha
(12:05 pm) skydiver :try 🙂
(12:05 pm) taco :nice sky:)
(12:05 pm) skydiver :was in middle of a
meeting with screen up and said excuse me for
a moment and jumped in 🙂
(12:06 pm) taco :haha
(12:06 pm) skydiver :all out of HLF for now
and back to meeting 🙂
(12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :good job, that high vol
sell candle was a nice signal
(12:06 pm) skydiver :yes
(12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :i didnt get the full
move, but happy the a piece
(12:07 pm) skydiver ::)
(12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :with
(12:08 pm) pirate :DPZ might have similiar
candle with a lower low
(12:11 pm) taco :at whispers DPZ was
supposed to have 18% volatility and after it
reported and nothing happened i diregarded
it
(12:12 pm) pirate :lookin like its just
gonna base and not rebound much
(12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :AAPL pulling back a bit
(12:17 pm) Ed :anyone ever trade /NQ
(12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :never actually traded it,
but used to monitor it a year or 2 ago
(12:18 pm) Ed :guess not much bang for buck
(12:18 pm) Ed :not like other futures
(12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :$5/tick just like /YM
(12:19 pm) Ed :i always correlate to /CL and
/GC
(12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :makes decent moves
though
(12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :just brought it back up
(12:20 pm) Ed :ok
(12:20 pm) herman :been in and out all
morning , Has it been a good day
(12:21 pm) herman :yelp looks good pop
(12:21 pm) JoeyTSA :early was decent, middle
got boring for me
(12:21 pm) taco :miss your calls herman:)
(12:24 pm) Qwert :same here joey seemed to
slow down early and then some strange action
(12:26 pm) taco :LL is before mrkt open
tomorrow with 18% volatility
(12:30 pm) JoeyTSA :nice selection of
earnings tomorrow + the crude inv report
(12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :HLF still moving
(12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :up and over $59
(12:33 pm) taco :ya beauty
(12:39 pm) JoeyTSA :wouldnt surprise me to
see AAPL touch $400, maybe $390 after hours
(12:40 pm) Qwert :did u see how expensive the
puts are?
(12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :not going to gamble
though
(12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :puts arent too bad
(12:40 pm) Qwert :yeah will just wait till
tomorrow
(12:41 pm) JoeyTSA :agreed, i dont like to
guess anymore than i already do 🙂
(12:41 pm) Qwert ::))
(12:42 pm) JoeyTSA :never liked holding thru
earnings when i was a swing trader
(12:43 pm) Qwert :same here got burned doing
that so quit
(12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :both premarket breakout
stocks i put up turned into duds
(12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :never got a trade in
SNDK, and GMCR hit me with a small loss
(12:45 pm) JoeyTSA :got burned a couple times
also qwert, do much better playing either
the run up as a swing or play the stock next
day after release
(12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :Ed : /NQ on nice selloff
since hitting S1 res 45 min ago
(12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :not in it, but have chart
up since you mentioned it earlier
(12:46 pm) Ed :yea i played that and TF
(12:47 pm) JoeyTSA :down 11pts, which is 44t
(12:47 pm) Ed :thx
(12:48 pm) Ed :hmm was wondering why no news,
my vol was turned off
(12:48 pm) JoeyTSA ::)
(12:49 pm) JoeyTSA :GOOG down about $5 past
15min
(12:51 pm) Murano :done for the day, see you
tomorrow
(12:51 pm) taco :bye murano have nice night
(12:51 pm) Qwert :cya murano
(12:52 pm) herman :bye murano
(12:53 pm) Ed :nice call joey
(12:54 pm) taco :thx ed
(12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah Ed, looks like AAPL
expected at 4:35ET, conference call at 5 ET
(12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :sure looks like someone
knows something already though 🙂
(12:57 pm) Ed :thx
(12:59 pm) taco :thanks Mitch Ed Joey Qwert,
and everyone, have a great rest of your day.
will watch appl too..
(12:59 pm) JoeyTSA :bye taco
(01:00 pm) herman :bye taco
(01:00 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Qwert,
everyone, enjoy your day, see you tomorrow
(01:00 pm) Qwert :bye everyone cya in the am
(01:01 pm) so :you too
(01:01 pm) herman :see you am
(01:03 pm) victor51 :Bye everyone.
| (05:10 am) taco :gm Qwert and everyone
(05:11 am) taco :/GC is moving nice
(05:21 am) taco :/CL looking for bottom..
(05:23 am) Qwert :gm everyone CL is nice
(05:28 am) taco :NFLX had big move last
night for earnings, should be good today
(05:50 am) taco :FIRE is potential
aquisition
(05:53 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning
Mitch,Qwert,everyone
(05:54 am) JoeyTSA :HPI # in 5 minutes,
Rochmond manufacturing # @ 7pdt
(05:55 am) JoeyTSA :early gap down ;
NFLX,PENN,QXII,ISIS,RYAAY
(05:56 am) JoeyTSA :early gap up :
FIREmPANW,DD,CSE,FTNT,PACW
(05:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx taco for FIRE info
(05:57 am) JoeyTSA :FIRE being bought by
CSCO
(05:57 am) taco :np looked like a buyout.
thx for gaps joey
(05:58 am) JoeyTSA :yeahm anytime i see a gap
with price stuck i assume some type of buyout
etc
(05:58 am) taco :right
(06:00 am) taco :ARRY gap up also
(06:02 am) JoeyTSA :ARRY had positive tests
for an asthma drug
(06:02 am) JoeyTSA :2 nice moves on /CL so
far
(06:03 am) taco :yes
(06:03 am) JoeyTSA :actually 4, might as well
play it while its hot
(06:05 am) taco :nice trendline top /CL
(06:13 am) JoeyTSA :watching /CL 106, 106.25
range for move
(06:14 am) JoeyTSA :/ES in 2 pt range at the
moment
(06:14 am) JoeyTSA :Good morning Ed, Murano,
everyone else who signed in after last gm
🙂
(06:14 am) taco :not sure what QXII is joey,
maybe typo?
(06:14 am) Murano :good morning
(06:15 am) taco :yes:)
(06:16 am) skydiver :Nice Mitdh — looking
forward to beta version 3 —
(06:17 am) skydiver :gm all by the way
(06:18 am) taco :lot of good premrkt setups,
should be good morn
(06:20 am) JoeyTSA :thx for list Mitch
(06:20 am) taco :thx mitch
(06:20 am) JoeyTSA :yes, that was a type, its
QSII
(06:21 am) JoeyTSA :both FIRE and PANW giving
nice pullback
(06:21 am) taco :whenever i type wrong
symbol my wife thinks im playing space
invaers lol
(06:21 am) herman :gm everyone
(06:24 am) JoeyTSA :my wife thinks this is
just one big video game
(06:26 am) taco 🙂
(06:35 am) JoeyTSA :quick moves so far, /ES
still stuck in 2pt range
(06:41 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX bery strong so far
(06:41 am) JoeyTSA :very
(06:42 am) JoeyTSA :AAPL a bit weak, GOOG
trying to hold $910
(06:47 am) JoeyTSA :GMCR still on my radar
though
(06:48 am) JoeyTSA :order on GMCR got filled
quick, in hindsight should have waited, but
thats trading
(06:49 am) skydiver :TSLA – coming up to a
double top
(06:49 am) JoeyTSA :good catch sky
(06:49 am) skydiver ::)
(06:51 am) JoeyTSA :/CL might be a lower tick
trade idea, may not even be worth the risk
(06:52 am) skydiver :out 3/4 on TSLA long
(06:52 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX,LNKD look to be
coiling for something
(06:52 am) JoeyTSA :great trade sky, held 123
and went up
(06:52 am) taco :nice sky:)
(06:53 am) skydiver :TSLA been nice to me
past couple of days
(06:53 am) JoeyTSA :AMGN a bit weak, just
watching
(06:53 am) skydiver :all out of TSLA long
(06:53 am) JoeyTSA :TSLA is your new JOY 🙂
(06:53 am) skydiver :I gues 🙂
(06:54 am) JoeyTSA :/ES just stuck in the
mud
(06:54 am) JoeyTSA :my shorter tick chart
looks funny
(06:55 am) JoeyTSA :mistake #2 today, didnt
reverse my GMCR position
(06:56 am) JoeyTSA :thx Ed
(06:57 am) JoeyTSA :missed nice breakout on
WAT with that move to $100, on watch
(06:58 am) skydiver :I mis handled GPOR –
shorted to quick, but held on, fianlly coming
down into profit
(07:00 am) skydiver :all out of GPOR short
–
(07:02 am) skydiver :reminder to self — do
not look at the money – need more discipline
there
(07:04 am) JoeyTSA :that was a huge miss on
the richmond #
(07:04 am) JoeyTSA :only missed by 18 haha
(07:05 am) skydiver :that was a huge miss —
wow
(07:05 am) JoeyTSA :/ES lost that early
range, trying to hold 1690 here
(07:05 am) JoeyTSA :yeah sky, forex factory
had 7 as the forecast, 8 was the previous
month, so -11 is ugly
(07:06 am) skydiver :I guess — crazy
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA :just not sure how that
makes me money 🙂
(07:06 am) skydiver :if you find out, let
all of us know 🙂
(07:06 am) JoeyTSA ::)
(07:11 am) JoeyTSA :watchign /CL here
(07:15 am) taco :think just had earnings
(07:15 am) JoeyTSA :very nice on TEVA
(07:16 am) skydiver :Mylan announces
favoriable ruling ni patent infringement case
relating to TEVA
(07:16 am) taco :thx sky
(07:17 am) skydiver ::)
(07:17 am) taco :i think that’s from july
18th
(07:17 am) skydiver :sorry — you’re correct
. . . old old old news – need coffee!!
(07:18 am) taco :lol
(07:20 am) JoeyTSA :i didnt even have TEVA
listed for earnings
(07:22 am) JoeyTSA :never got that breakout
on SNDK from premarket mention, turned into
decent short though, wasnt in it
(07:24 am) taco :think im wrong re TEVA
earnings
(07:25 am) JoeyTSA :maybe, ihave them listed
for 7/24
(07:26 am) JoeyTSA :TEVA whisper is $1.67,
consensus estimate is 1.71
(07:26 am) skydiver :nice Murano on AIG
(07:29 am) JoeyTSA :since pop on FSLR,
nothing but lower highs
(07:29 am) skydiver :TSLA – monitoring
(07:30 am) Qwert :OXY holding up so far in
this mkt watching for breakout
(07:30 am) Qwert :if spy holds
(07:31 am) skydiver :thnx qwert
(07:33 am) Qwert :NAT coming back to open
price
(07:38 am) taco :NFLX held 251.5
(07:38 am) JoeyTSA :break time, see you in
20
(08:07 am) taco :nice DD qwert
(08:08 am) JoeyTSA :DD nice both ways
(08:09 am) Qwert :i missed the short but am
in the long now :))
(08:24 am) taco :ed, do you use after mrkt
and pre markt s/r when a stock moves as much
as NFLX did?
(08:25 am) Ed :yes
(08:37 am) JoeyTSA :glad i was watching HLF,
still missed the trade
(08:38 am) JoeyTSA :AMZN, NFLX lod area
(08:38 am) Qwert :i missed as well joey
hahaha
(08:39 am) JoeyTSA :gave me a dbl bot, no
divergence but decent on support level
(08:40 am) taco :joey, whats the pin you and
shark were talking about?
(08:40 am) JoeyTSA :its an options thing…
(08:41 am) JoeyTSA :on expiration day,
looking to see if a stock pins at a certain
price
(08:41 am) taco :ah thx, i found info on
pinochio bar but diff.
(08:41 am) JoeyTSA :ie: if you know or can
tell NFLX will pin at $250, you can sell the
higher calls/lower puts and take in
premium
(08:42 am) taco :right
(08:42 am) JoeyTSA :or again, if you kjnow
NFLX will close friday @ $250, and its at
$247, it might be a decent long going into
the close
(08:43 am) JoeyTSA :those are just
ideas/thoughts on pinning, not
recommendation to attempt blindly
(08:43 am) taco :right ty
(08:44 am) JoeyTSA :if you google ” weekly
option pinning ” or something to that effect,
you will get a few hits to articles etc
(08:45 am) JoeyTSA :cant say i would trade
solely off what i THINK might be the pin
level though
(08:46 am) JoeyTSA :but if i see conjunction
with other things, then a trade might set up
(08:48 am) JoeyTSA :the one thing you dont
want to do is overload your brain with a
bunch of different setups to look for
(08:48 am) taco :nice thanks, right
(08:52 am) taco :there were noo shorts at IB
for USU when it was at 13.50, still none must
be painful..
(08:53 am) Murano :none at Lightspeed
(08:53 am) JoeyTSA :didnt even bother to
look…
(08:53 am) JoeyTSA :Lightspeed had it listed
as T, usually means not shortable
(08:54 am) JoeyTSA :eye on USU for break over
$15 though
(08:56 am) Qwert :couldnt find any Mitch
(08:56 am) JoeyTSA :good thing about that is,
you only have to look for trades in 1
direction 🙂
(08:58 am) JoeyTSA :quick break, back in 30
(08:58 am) taco :NBS had nice move, enjoy
joey
(09:01 am) taco :TSLA dbl bot
(09:38 am) JoeyTSA :hope someone got HLF
(09:38 am) taco :i have same pp as you for
futures joey
(09:39 am) regatta :watching HERO, low
price
(09:43 am) JoeyTSA :taco, my pp is actually
set at 1689.75 is that where yours is?
(09:44 am) JoeyTSA :ps: nice call on the TSLA
dbl bot
(09:44 am) taco :no its bang on 1690.00
(09:44 am) JoeyTSA :weird how they are off a
bit
(09:44 am) taco :closer than for stocks tho
(09:45 am) JoeyTSA :im not using ninja for
stocks..
(09:45 am) JoeyTSA :but my Tradestation
pivots are different than my Lightspeed
pivots
(09:45 am) taco :for futures?
(09:45 am) JoeyTSA :so i just basically use
whichever, depending on the platform i am
watching
(09:46 am) JoeyTSA :yes, ninja only for
futures
(09:46 am) taco :ok
(09:47 am) JoeyTSA :NFLX testing $250
(09:56 am) taco :HERO was nice off support
(10:00 am) victor51 :Hi Joey
(10:05 am) JoeyTSA :hey victor, how have you
been? and how is your relative doing?
(10:07 am) Qwert :Joey u trade /TF
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i have, but not today
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :actually been a few
weeks
(10:08 am) Qwert :how many tics do you trail
your stops?
(10:08 am) JoeyTSA :i still watch it time to
time, but more focused on /ES,/YM,/CL
(10:09 am) JoeyTSA :it changes depending on
the action, but i start it off usually at 10
(10:10 am) Qwert :okay thx do you do the same
with /CL?
(10:10 am) JoeyTSA :also, usually dont trail,
i set a profit target and usually get out
there
(10:10 am) Qwert :10 tics profit tgt?
(10:10 am) JoeyTSA :yeah, again kind of
depends on the previous move
(10:11 am) JoeyTSA :when i use an atm, i have
it set at 10, but usually move it
(10:11 am) JoeyTSA :its kind of like playing
checkers h aha
(10:12 am) JoeyTSA :move one piece, then
another 🙂
(10:12 am) Qwert :okay thanks have been
watching it a little here and there?
(10:12 am) Qwert :sorry that wasnt a
question
(10:12 am) JoeyTSA :then at times i just keep
them static, whichever hits first hits
(10:13 am) taco :Murano, did you trade MAT?
(10:13 am) JoeyTSA :sorry it isnt really a
concrete answer, i tend to trade
instinctively at times..and do a lot of
guessing
(10:13 am) Qwert :oh its okay i totally
undersdtand
(10:14 am) JoeyTSA :main thing i try to do
with stocks and futures is to keep myself
from taking a big loss
(10:14 am) Murano :yes, taco small profit
and got stopped 2nd time MAT
(10:15 am) JoeyTSA :if you keep your r/r high
enough, you dont need a high hitrate to be
profitable
(10:15 am) JoeyTSA :problem is when the r/r
you want isnt hit, thats where flexibility
comes in
(10:16 am) victor51 :Joey, I was with him
last week. Doing much better with 70%
improvement. Gaining weight and will try new
stuff for last 30%. Thanks for asking.
(10:17 am) JoeyTSA :good to hear victor,
continued prayers
(10:18 am) JoeyTSA :tighten NFLX if long off
$250, im not in it
(10:19 am) JoeyTSA :retest was nice though,
the $250C went from $5.50 to over $7
(10:19 am) taco :ya beauty
(10:20 am) JoeyTSA :not bad for about 20min
(10:21 am) JoeyTSA :keep eye on it, lunch
time for me, see you soon
(10:22 am) Qwert :enjoy joey
(10:44 am) taco :DPZ like the whole #
(11:04 am) JoeyTSA :qwert : JNPR has earnings
today
(11:04 am) JoeyTSA :not sure when
(11:05 am) Qwert :yeah i saw that
(11:06 am) JoeyTSA :HLF now trying to hold
$58
(11:20 am) pirate :watching HLF
(11:23 am) Murano :CAT weak bounce so far
(11:25 am) regatta :watching BLMN
(11:31 am) JoeyTSA :DUST $3 selloff past 15
minutes or so
(11:42 am) JoeyTSA :is today earnings for
AAPL?
(11:43 am) Qwert :i think so joey
(11:43 am) Murano :yes APPL is today
(11:43 am) JoeyTSA :thx, wasnt on my normal
weekly earnings list, but noticed it at
earningswhisper
(11:44 am) JoeyTSA :got it, not i see it on
both thanks again
(11:44 am) JoeyTSA :now not not
(11:46 am) JoeyTSA :noticed the AAPL options
wer a bit higher priced
(11:55 am) JoeyTSA :pretty decent bounce on
HLF from the bottom
(11:55 am) taco :sure was
(11:55 am) taco :is
(11:56 am) JoeyTSA :been using the 50c lines
well
(12:01 pm) pirate :watching DPZ
(12:04 pm) taco :domioes pizza, had earnings
this morn
(12:04 pm) skydiver :HLF – very nice.
thanks . . . at office and jumped on it
(12:04 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah, HLF nice
(12:04 pm) skydiver :I came in late, but
making some profit
(12:05 pm) JoeyTSA :you always do haha
(12:05 pm) skydiver :try 🙂
(12:05 pm) taco :nice sky:)
(12:05 pm) skydiver :was in middle of a
meeting with screen up and said excuse me for
a moment and jumped in 🙂
(12:06 pm) taco :haha
(12:06 pm) skydiver :all out of HLF for now
and back to meeting 🙂
(12:06 pm) JoeyTSA :good job, that high vol
sell candle was a nice signal
(12:06 pm) skydiver :yes
(12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :i didnt get the full
move, but happy the a piece
(12:07 pm) skydiver ::)
(12:07 pm) JoeyTSA :with
(12:08 pm) pirate :DPZ might have similiar
candle with a lower low
(12:11 pm) taco :at whispers DPZ was
supposed to have 18% volatility and after it
reported and nothing happened i diregarded
it
(12:12 pm) pirate :lookin like its just
gonna base and not rebound much
(12:14 pm) JoeyTSA :AAPL pulling back a bit
(12:17 pm) Ed :anyone ever trade /NQ
(12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :never actually traded it,
but used to monitor it a year or 2 ago
(12:18 pm) Ed :guess not much bang for buck
(12:18 pm) Ed :not like other futures
(12:18 pm) JoeyTSA :$5/tick just like /YM
(12:19 pm) Ed :i always correlate to /CL and
/GC
(12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :makes decent moves
though
(12:20 pm) JoeyTSA :just brought it back up
(12:20 pm) Ed :ok
(12:20 pm) herman :been in and out all
morning , Has it been a good day
(12:21 pm) herman :yelp looks good pop
(12:21 pm) JoeyTSA :early was decent, middle
got boring for me
(12:21 pm) taco :miss your calls herman:)
(12:24 pm) Qwert :same here joey seemed to
slow down early and then some strange action
(12:26 pm) taco :LL is before mrkt open
tomorrow with 18% volatility
(12:30 pm) JoeyTSA :nice selection of
earnings tomorrow + the crude inv report
(12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :HLF still moving
(12:32 pm) JoeyTSA :up and over $59
(12:33 pm) taco :ya beauty
(12:39 pm) JoeyTSA :wouldnt surprise me to
see AAPL touch $400, maybe $390 after hours
(12:40 pm) Qwert :did u see how expensive the
puts are?
(12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :not going to gamble
though
(12:40 pm) JoeyTSA :puts arent too bad
(12:40 pm) Qwert :yeah will just wait till
tomorrow
(12:41 pm) JoeyTSA :agreed, i dont like to
guess anymore than i already do 🙂
(12:41 pm) Qwert ::))
(12:42 pm) JoeyTSA :never liked holding thru
earnings when i was a swing trader
(12:43 pm) Qwert :same here got burned doing
that so quit
(12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :both premarket breakout
stocks i put up turned into duds
(12:43 pm) JoeyTSA :never got a trade in
SNDK, and GMCR hit me with a small loss
(12:45 pm) JoeyTSA :got burned a couple times
also qwert, do much better playing either
the run up as a swing or play the stock next
day after release
(12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :Ed : /NQ on nice selloff
since hitting S1 res 45 min ago
(12:46 pm) JoeyTSA :not in it, but have chart
up since you mentioned it earlier
(12:46 pm) Ed :yea i played that and TF
(12:47 pm) JoeyTSA :down 11pts, which is 44t
(12:47 pm) Ed :thx
(12:48 pm) Ed :hmm was wondering why no news,
my vol was turned off
(12:48 pm) JoeyTSA ::)
(12:49 pm) JoeyTSA :GOOG down about $5 past
15min
(12:51 pm) Murano :done for the day, see you
tomorrow
(12:51 pm) taco :bye murano have nice night
(12:51 pm) Qwert :cya murano
(12:52 pm) herman :bye murano
(12:53 pm) Ed :nice call joey
(12:54 pm) taco :thx ed
(12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :yeah Ed, looks like AAPL
expected at 4:35ET, conference call at 5 ET
(12:57 pm) JoeyTSA :sure looks like someone
knows something already though 🙂
(12:57 pm) Ed :thx
(12:59 pm) taco :thanks Mitch Ed Joey Qwert,
and everyone, have a great rest of your day.
will watch appl too..
(12:59 pm) JoeyTSA :bye taco
(01:00 pm) herman :bye taco
(01:00 pm) JoeyTSA :Thanks Mitch,Ed,Qwert,
everyone, enjoy your day, see you tomorrow
(01:00 pm) Qwert :bye everyone cya in the am
(01:01 pm) so :you too
(01:01 pm) herman :see you am
(01:03 pm) victor51 :Bye everyone.
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